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Most telling moment in the film version of this 'folk hero'


Screaming "I'm so hungry," at the sky, screaming blame, because he didn't pack in supplies, he didn't read his plants guide properly, he didn't know how to dress a moose in July, he didn't know how to fish, and he didn't know that small game meat lacks crucial fats.

I watched him screaming in fear and pain by a coldwater tributary where whitefish and grayling can easily be caught. He carried no fishing rod, no line, no hooks, and no lures. (The maggots on his rotting moosemeat would have baited and caught him too many fish to eat.)

He couldn't even tell which plants were safe to eat.

Basically this suburban rich-kid dummy had no idea, utterly no clue, what he was doing much less how to subsist in a dangerous and killer environment like the Alaska bush. His own ignorance killed him.

Apparently he thought 'Bartleby the Scrivener' was an instruction manual. Why celebrate suicidal ignorance? Why celebrate suicidal ignorance?

"I want to live off the land." He got exactly what he had coming: the land had little for him. He died of self-neglect, ignorance, and, worst of all, his own pride.

Folk 'hero'? Pathetic, uneducated arrogance--or, at best, undiagnosed paranoid schizophrenia.

(Creedence Clearwater Revival's 'Porterville' did not describe McCandless, either.)

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You make some valid points, but the blame lies with Sean Penn for much of this picture of Chris McCandless as you describe him. He did indeed have a fishing rod and gear (a gift from "Ron Franz" whose real name was Russell Fritz);we don't know whether he used it or with what success, except that his food diary would surely have mentioned fish had he caught them. He probably DID read the plant guide properly, and knew there were no toxic plants in the area; the whole "toxic berries" business (including the page shown from a real book on Alaskan plants, but which page in the movie was fictitious) was totally imaginary from beginning to end. McCandless didn't die from eating the wrong thing, he died for lack of eating enough of anything.

He certainly made mistakes, but the portrayal of him as a complete wilderness neophyte and total ignoramus was, so far as I can tell, the filmmaker's attempt to make the story more "romantic" or some similar nonsense. McCandless definitely did not make the preparation needed and failed to understand the differences between the Alaskan wilderness he confronted and the various wilderness areas in the Northeast and west coast where he had successfully camped solo for extended periods in years previously. Bad luck also played a role. Penn leaves out the fact that Chris sustained some injury which prevented him walking out (and yes, he did have a map and yes, he did know where the park service road was, with a bridge across the Tex, so he didn't need to swim or wade over a raging river.) Oh, and he didn't burn all his money or his ID either. More fiction.

The "epiphany" at the end was a movie invention as well, and the "Happiness is only real when shared" line is not Chris's own, but a quotation from Pasternak's "Doctor Zhivago, " which Chris was reading and which he wrote in the margin, paraphrasing the Russian translation's stilted phrasing (the original translation read "the only real happiness is shared happiness").

He never meant to "turn his back on society" either. Strike three, Sean Penn. He was planning to be back at Wayne's in August. He was very happy in Carthage (the film doesn't show it but he spent two long periods there) and planned to return.





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In the 2015 version of the book, the author describes that his latest research found the toxic amino acid L-cananavine is present in seeds of the wild pea, which McCandless mistook for wild potato.

There are boards full of people lauding McCandless as a hero when all he did was starve and die needlessly in an abandoned vehicle thirty miles away from a town and sixteen miles off a highway.

He wasn't even in the wild.

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In the 2015 version of the book, the author describes that his latest research found the toxic amino acid L-cananavine is present in seeds of the wild pea, which McCandless mistook for wild potato.


LOL, Jon Krakauer just can't let go of his obsession with McCandless being such an extraordinary human being that he could not have died of simple starvation, there had to be a once-in-ten-trillion cause of death, unique in medical literature, to explain his demise.

He has had several quite erroneous theories (Krakauer knows zip about science, and is about as qualified to determine causes of death as he is to design the next Mars self-contained ecosystem). L-Cananavine is potentially harmful, though not toxic, to humans, especially to those with lupus or other autoimmune diseases, and in gigantic quantities, consumed over a long period of time (no studies of such have been done) could possibly impair immune function, T-cell production, and the like. McCandless just wasn't in the bush long enough to suffer any ill effects from L-cananavine or other components of wild plants in the area, and there is no indication he ate those seeds in large quantities. He did remark that he felt ill and blamed it on the seeds, but he could easily have been suffering indigestion from a completely different cause, like coccidia or giardia.

I don't believe McCandless was a "hero," but he was a not untypical young man of his time. Tens of thousands of young Americans were doing similar (often dangerous) things in the late 80's and early 90's, taking time off between high school and college, or dropping out of school to bum around for awhile, even in foreign countries. A problem with the film, and the book, is that McCandless' quest is not placed in its historical context. In today's zeitgeist, what he did seems incredible and stupid, while at the time, although it was certainly reckless, it was not that unusual. Young guys (more rarely young women) went "walkabout" to search for meaning, purpose, whatever, or simply to have a brief period of freedom and lack of long-term responsibility before settling down.

And settling down one day was in Chris McCandless's plans. He told Wayne he wanted to get married eventually, but he wanted to travel and see the world first. The film doesn't mention the injury McCandless suffered, which was the likely reason he didn't just walk out, which he could have done (he did have a map, and he knew there was a service road bridge over the Tek downriver from the bus).

Although he wasn't a "hero," many readers identify with his desire to explore the world, meet people and be open to new ideas, if not in quite so risky a manner. His death was partly due to his lack of sufficient planning and preparation, but also in part to sheer bad luck.

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He left he was going home or who knows where but he left that bus and couldn't cross the river so he came back to the bus and was stuck there. That's in the movie I haven't read the book maybe it was theatrics for the movie but they showed him trying to leave

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