My first pregnancy was a twin gestation, and I lost one of the babies at 9 weeks. At the time, I thought I was having a miscarriage, and did not know it was twins until I lost the one baby. I was so happy that one baby was doing well, and had a good prognosis to be born healthy, but that was tempered with a bit of sadness, knowing that there had been two two babies and that one did not make it. So I kind of empathize with Megan's mixed emotions during her ultrasound. Anyone have a different take on it?
I was just about to post about this, I could't believe she was crying in a sad way! I really thought she was crying for joy over hearing her baby's heartbeat! That just irritated me so much. I went through ivf and had 5 embryos put in but none of them took. Ugh that just bugged me so much. For once I loved Jimmy--he was telling her there's a baby there that needs her attention.
Nobody gets to dictate someone else's emotional response. Whether there were 10 babies or 1 the reality is is that a miscarriage is a loss. I can't believe people are judging her for being upset that one of her babies died...??
I can't stand Meghan but I was just about to post the same thing. What kind of person gets pissed that a woman cries over the loss of one of her babies and calls her ungrateful??? No wonder the world is so f'ed up with all the nasty soulless people out here giving demons a run for their money.
I'm not angry or in hysterics or in need of calming down. IMDB is NOT that deep for me and I wasn't feeling anger when I wrote my post. Perhaps you interpreted it that way because you are a negative person, doing a little projecting. Some people will always see the glass as half empty. :)
Agree. I'm not a fan of Meghan but my heart broke for her. At first, I too, thought she was happy crying but then saw her hold up 1 finger. She was convinced she was having twins so that's a huge loss. She was being emotional and I think we got to see her soft side. I thought her husband was really sweet w her too. It was a sad but touching moment imo.
At first, I too, thought she was happy crying but then saw her hold up 1 finger.
Same here. I thought she was happy because the doctor was describing a healthy heartbeat. It was one of the few times we got to see a genuine, heartfelt side to her and Jimmy.
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Ok, let's get this straight: her "baby" didn't die. There was no BABY. At best it was a fetus, that's if the embryo even implanted. To act as though this was an independent life deserving of the "baby" title is a fallacy and really perpetuates myths about women's health and fetal development. Now, whether or not she had a right to be upset is a different issue. Personally I feel like the joy of having one healthy, developing fetus should be the overriding emotion, even though she is certainly entitled to feel some sense of loss.
It's about Meghan's emotional investment in the pregnancy, not whether the baby was ever technically alive. By your logic, any woman who miscarries early shouldn't feel sad because it wasn't 'real.'
Not that Meghan miscarried, but for this purpose it's the same kind of thing.
Miscarriages are real. Embryos have a fighting chance, having successfully implanted. But I understand now she obviously must have been excited for twins.
In her mind she was having twins. It's still a loss. It's no different than when a woman is having fertility issues, gets inseminated and nothing takes. I for one, cried many times over that. No, there was never a baby but it's still a loss and a let down.
It doesn't matter if it was a baby or a fetus the fact is the woman suffered a loss. She really wanted both of them to survive and one didn't and now she's sad. I don't know why her sadness sparks such hatred and rage from people. Yeah it's great she's going to have at least one baby but her being sad that the other one didn't survive does not make her spoiled, ungrateful or a drama queen. She's entitled to her emotions and it's arrogant as hell for others to tell her or anyone else when, where, how and under what circumstances they can grieve.
Thank you! and if anyone knew the process of getting pg which I learned every tiny step of the way dealing with infertility, that embryo never took! It never implanted, it was gone the day of the ivf procedure. In general the chances of all embryos being put in 'taking' is very low. That's why they try to make as many as possible, which I have to admit having only two was pretty low for her and I was surprised at that given her age.
Anyway, I assume she got over it quickly and is rejoicing at her baby. I was just surprised because I honestly thought she was crying for joy.
I see what you'r saying,J_Bun, but we don't necessarily know that the other embryo didn't implant. Actually, since Megan seemed very emotionally invested in having twins, I think maybe two embryos did implant. Usually, a woman with a twin gestation will have higher Beta HCG levels than a single pregnancy, and Megan may have been encouraged by that, thinking that both embryos would survive. Vanishing twin syndrome is not uncommon- especially in IVF, because the pregnancy is being monitored closely early on. To be honest, I first thought Megan was crying out of joy during the ultrasound, but she signaled "1" to Jimmy- meaning she was sad only one embryo was viable. Megan's feelings are her own, and she is certainly entitled to them. It does seem a bit callous to criticize her emotion, especially since we have been privy to a sensitive, important time in their lives. However, I do understand that her reaction could touch a nerve for those that have dealt with infertility .
It was not my intention to be insensitive. I just think (especially in the current climate) it is vital to make the distinction between a baby and a fetus or embryo for women's rights and healthcare purposes.
Nobody gets to dictate someone else's emotional response. Whether there were 10 babies or 1 the reality is is that a miscarriage is a loss. I can't believe people are judging her for being upset that one of her babies died...??
Dictate is the wrong word I think. You can't dictate but you can certainly have an opinion about her reaction and my opinion was disbelief when I realized she was crying sad and not happy. I thought she should be happy she had the one baby. But I guess I'm dictating how she should feel
Remember that old saying- " You can't understand another person's experience until you've walked a mile in their shoes"?! It definitely applies in this situation. However, I do understand how Megan's reaction could rub someone the wrong way if they had fertility disappointments.
by noveltylibrary » 5 days ago (Tue Sep 27 2016 15:14:54) Flag ▼ | Reply | IMDb member since January 2005 I was just about to post about this, I could't believe she was crying in a sad way! I really thought she was crying for joy over hearing her baby's heartbeat! That just irritated me so much. I went through ivf and had 5 embryos put in but none of them took. Ugh that just bugged me so much. For once I loved Jimmy--he was telling her there's a baby there that needs her attention.
It's entirely possible Megan was crying from mixed emotions. It was the first time she saw evidence of her pregnancy on ultrasound and it was also when she learned one of the embryos didn't survive.
On another note: I'm curious as to why folks are writing that her son didn't survive. Who knows which embryo survived? I heard the doctor originally say the female had a greater chance, but we really don't know yet.
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From what I saw, and from my own experience, even though they were advised of the risks, in her mind she was expecting twins - a girl and a boy. I have no doubt they talked about names, hopes, planned a nursery, and read up on parenting twins. It was probably very real to her.
So when she was told that there was only one, her heart told her she experienced a miscarriage. She mourned a loss of all of those hopes and thoughts and plans, and I greatly sympathized with her. I don't get the hate, either.
To me, her IVF journey has been the only genuine and interesting story line this season. Hang all the ER drama and drunk rampages and gossip. Good L-rd, does that ever end and is it ever fresh? Here was something real, and its the only thing I have enjoyed.
As to your last question, I think they found out fairly early that the one she is carrying is the girl. She was on WWHL last night, and she looks great and very happy and excited.
I bought some powdered water but didn't know what to add to it.
Tioga, I agree with you.I thought of her imagining the future of her family with twins, a boy and a girl. I even cried for her at the showing of the ultrasound. I knew her joy and shared her loss. We all have hopes and dreams and it is hard to see others stomping on this young mother's joy and sorrow.
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Meagan is doing IVF, she chose to implant two embryos. Going into IVF you know to implant more than one because usually they do not take. I think her over reaction and comments she has made since then are HIGH OFFENSIVE to women going through IVF and women who have lost pregnancies.
Exactly, people are so judgmental and offended over everything these days. You would think since the poster lost a baby, she was be more understanding and compassionate, but instead she is bitter. Meghan has a right to feel how ever she wants about this.
I think Megan may have had two embryos implant and corresponding blood tests confirmed it. At some point, one of the embryos was absorbed. It's fairly common. As I said in my OP, I miscarried a twin at around 9-10 weeks, so I do understand Megan's sense of loss, and joy. I had infertility for around 18 months but didn't have to have IVF, and during that time, I refrained from watching any movies or tv that involved pregnancy or babies- it was too depressing. Megan's scenes may have struck a nerve with women that have experienced infertility. I do think everyone deals differently with things, and Megan is certainly entitled to the way she feels.