So many experts


I love how people love to believe their opinions are facts.

"This story is real."
"This is 100% fake."

None of were there. None of you know either way.

Go on guessing but stop kidding yourselves that you're anything other than blowhards.

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But until until someone proves that ghosts, demons, spirits or poltergeists are real then the honest stance is to not believe that this is true.

And yes I know "absence of evidence... " etc but there have been many an experiment, which have all failed. James Randi's million is still up for grabs don't forget.

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Experiments may have failed, but that doesn't change experiences that can't be explained by any natural cause. And evidence may have been provided many times but declared fake (photos, video footage etc.), because if something can't be explained the only answer skeptics will give is "fake". So I don't see how it's possible for anyone to present 100% proof.

I know of about four people in a room together who all saw objects being picked up and thrown in that room (they were suitably terrified when recounting what had happened too).

Claiming every piece of evidence is fake and saying every witness is exaggerating or a liar doesn't disprove the existence of ghosts either.

I know of too many reliable people who've experienced things that just can't be explained (and had experiences myself) to think there's nothing in it. At the end of the day I think we understand very little about the universe and how it works. :)

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To all of you above.

Just venting some thoughts. Not trying to argue with anyone specific.

There is a problem with having to falsify something for it not to be true. Then pretty much anything imaginable is real. The foundation human kind has, in most places anyhow, agreed upon is that something is untrue until proven otherwise, as well as someone is not guilty until proven otherwise. That's why it is so important with hard evidence in court and in science. But then again, witnesses are also important. If their stories are credible...

Now, the above is not the same as saying one is not free to believe whatever one wants. But when it comes to generalizing something and making it applicable to everyone (such as the laws of physics and what treatments works for a certain disease etc), we must look for what is the most plausible.

So my take on it is that it is wrong to state something like "this happened the way they witnessed it" but fully ok to state that "I believe their story to be true". The statement that it may be true because noone has proof of anything else is ok if you then also agree that its equally true that I have built a time machine but it only worked once and then broke so noone can prove it never existed.

Well. I had 15 minutes to kill. Whatever!

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