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Shouldn't movies be about other themes than movie making?


I suppose I have to accept a few films being about film making itself. A couple might also be good, although this one is not very intriguing in my opinion.

But I think it's sad to see that so out of proportion many films are about film. I think it shows lack of fantasy and creativity. Why do you think it is like this? Is it because the scriptwriters spend to much time in Hollywood and loose touch with the rest of the world? Or could the answer be that the movie executives that decides which scripts will be produced flatter themselves by pickng scripts where their own business is the center of attention, kind of a narcissistic trait?

Share your thoughts!

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Writers like to write about writing. Moviemakers make movies about moviemaking. Actors like to play actors. Stories are about other stories: it's an old thing, and I think it's very intriguing, complete opposite of 'lack of fantasy and creativity'. The main reason some of these movies suck is because it is so hard to do it properly.

Metafiction and -narrative is such a large and diverse subject that it is hard to even start explaining it. Self-reflective stories go much further than just Hollywood, they have been here, like, always. It might date back to Shakespeare or maybe even to ancient Greece.

I can hardly phrase my thoughts of it into a reasonable sentence, but I like what Ted Goranson of filmsfolded.com always uses: the term 'folding', where in this case the inner story (movie or play or whatever) is there to move us into the world of the characters experiencing it.

I haven't seen this one yet though, but Levinson has used this device many times before, notably with TV in 'Wag the Dog'.

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And what could be said of movies about dry cleaning or floor wax removal or auto shops or car washes or biblical archaeologists or canned worms or toothpick milling or bowling leagues in the Bronx...or?

Nothing is more beautiful than nothing.

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dude you are imagining things - maybe 1 out of 1,500 movies are about moviemaking

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