I felt sorry for that guy. He didn't really do anything all that bad. It was his friends that raped her. And she kinda deserved the picture taking. She was a psycho, and was practically stalking him. It wasn't fair how it turned out.
shareHe sat there and listened to her scream out his name, begging him for help, and he did nothing. That's the most disgusting thing I can think of.
His friends brutally raped her and he did NOTHING to stop them. That shows what a horrible person he truly was, and he got what he deserved in the end.
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So many men really do automatically sympathise with rapists.
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The reason you felt sorry for him is because he was portrayed as the good guy all along. He never really got into the monster persona. He was a man who got into a bad situation and made the wrong decision on how to get out of it (it was obvious it wasn't his friends' first time). However, what he did *was* bad.
I almost felt sorry for him, too. Only because his two friends got off easy in the end - they got to die while he has to spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital alone save for a deranged ghost hanging off his back... He should have died.
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You must be a guy. Only another guy would write something so horrible. How about thinking about the opposite-when a man stalks a woman? Is that right? Or if you witness a crime happening and do nothing and the victim sees you standing there. Are you at fault? Yes you are. It's called negligence. You were there and did nothing.
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You only have his word that she was stalking him and crazy (at no point did she come over as psychotic until they wronged her and she became a vengeful spirit). She was still in love with him and he didn't have the guts to tell her to her face that he didn't love her back, maybe she was just trying to talk to him and fix their relationship and because he wasn't interested he considered that 'stalking'. Instead of manning up and being honest or IDK going to the police like a normal person he got his friends to drug and assault her. No way was the plan just to drug her, he knew his friends and what they would do and he did nothing to stop it once it got out of hand. He's the psycho, he let them rape her so he could have a quiet life. Glad that worked out for him.
And you're sticking up for him and calling people morons for finding him a disturbing, selfish prick? Ooooookay then.
We only have his word that she was stalking him? Her ghost is haunting him and physically attaching itself to him for God's sake. I'd think that's pretty good evidence he wasn't exaggerating by much, if at all.
The guy was a nasty piece of work but I don't think there's any proof he knew they'd actually rape her. Being a lecher doesn't automatically make one a rapist as far as I know.
What? He didn't really do anything all that bad? He came up with the idea. No one deserves to be gang-raped. If she was stalking him, he could have called the police, but he didn't.
shareReading the other replies, Zikten got the smackdown after his statement...rofl. But yeah he was bad, actually he was the worst of the three. Why? Because he was the one person out of the three she completely trusted and loved. Imagine for a second your girlfriend led you to a room, everythings lovely with dinner, flowers and wine on the table. You're ecstatic and give her a kiss. Next thing you blackout and wake up to two hairy men howling up a storm, high-fiving one another and taking out the KY. You beg for help but your girlfriend is too busy taking pictures to blackmail you with. After the pictures are taken, she takes a seat and the show's about to begin. Do you imagine asking a second date anytime soon?
Anyway, back to the movie, yeah the guy was the main reason she couldn't rest in peace.
Please tell me you are kidding? that is like saying she asked to be raped. She loved him and obviously was dependant on him when her father died.
I came to this thread because I knew that a bunch of feminists would devour this guy alive in indignant, pyschotic rage. I wasn't disappointed. :P
Anyways, I like your point Melanie1784, and it was her love for Ben that really cost him my favor. I mean, at first I felt bad for him, if only because it was obvious he was panicked and had no idea what to do. She freaked him out, he listened to his idiot friends while drunk, and boom... stupid happened. Big surprise.
However, the flashbacks changed my mind. I felt really sorry for her. She was just so vulnerable and frail. Yeah, Megumi was clingy and a bit insane. Those are really not pleasant things to deal with. Yet, the camera and "cherry blossom frolic" scenes really showed her in a pleasant light, and that look of happiness on her face when she's drinking the laced wine, completely unaware of the gang-rape and potassium-cyanide hijinks that are just around the corner... Ben kind of lost me there. That's not cool, and her cries to him during the rape really didn't help his case.
So nope, I can't say I really support Ben either. Oh, and I think he should have thanked Megumi for helping him realize how lame his wife was. That Aussie was hysterical half the time, obnoxious the other, and a traitor to boot! Say what he will about Megumi, at least she never ditched him like that. Granted, she rides on his shoulders in a comically stupid fashion that made me laugh so hard that I started to snort, cry, and disgust everyone around me in myriad ways, but hey... no one's perfect! :P As long as she promised not to kill me or lift up her dress to reveal maggots and rancid flesh, I'd let Megumi stay and go out for some ice cream. Better off with ghost girlfriend than that Rachel.
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Thanks for clearing that up, mate.
I can kind of understand the OP's view, but I'll have to politefully disagree. Ben is presented almost entirely as a protagonist for the entire first stretch of the film, so it's understandable that it'll be hard to see him switch to an antagonizing character, but I really started to feel for Megumi during the gang rape scene, especially when she was slurring his name and the shots of her eyes. She was vulnerable and frail, and he should have helped her.
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Note to humanity:
Anyone who thinks rape is bad = "indignant, psychotic feminist."
My but this post is turning into a magnet for stupidity, isn't it?
Note to humanity:
Anyone who thinks rape is bad = "indignant, psychotic feminist."
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You aren't all that familiar with humanity, are you?
And as for calling people who think rape is bad "indignant, psychotic feminists"... have you ever been raped?
Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense.
Hm. I was actually echoing the sentiments of previous posters that what the OP was saying was stupid, borrowing nicotineprincess's format to point out that not only did someone who disagreed with rape have to be, apparently, in a psychotic rage, but automatically a crazy feminist. I'd mock you for poor reading comprehension, but I agree that my post was unclear so I'll give you that one.
However, asking me if I've been raped? What would you do if I told you the answer was yes? Way to bring it up for the sake of an argument on the internet. That's always a great decision to make, I should bow to you obviously as a paragon of understanding and humanity. Thanks, so much, for asking me to delve into a potentially traumatic sexual history on IMDB, I've learned so much from you. Keep on being the bigger person man, rock on.