One Way The US Version Is Better - Slight Spoiler

Not you, you ninny.

If I have to tell you again, we're gonna take it outside and I'm gonna show you what it's like!

e-klien-1 wrote: <<Oh, coolbluegreen, I know it's hard to suffer fools gladly; but I think those two bullies got the rise out of you that they were looking for.>>

That's what I don't get, have never gotten. Why look to do something like that in the first place? I guess I make an easy target for some people because I just cannot understand what would make someone want to be a total jerk and be mean to people on purpose, for no reason other than to hurt someone. I don't get it and always wonder if they really didn't understand or whatever.

e-klien-1 wrote: <<That's what rude, argumentative people enjoy doing.>>

I am sure you are right. Again, I don't get it and I am glad I don't.

e-klien-1 wrote: <<Personally, I read your OP just the way it was written. I don't see how anyone could read more into it.>>

Me neither! I guess you are right -- there is no way to read more into it -- unless you want to, in order to be an obnoxious jerk. Of course, even then, you are not sincerely misunderstanding -- you are purposefully being a jerk. Again, since I have difficulty understanding why anyone would do that, I wind up giving the benefit of the doubt to those who don't deserve it. You are wise, e-klien-1!

e-klien-1 wrote: <<Not being a New Yorker, I couldn't feel the depth of emotion you felt, but I surely can empathize with it. I remember the day after 9/11 feeling that our country had lost an immunity to the evils we read about elsewhere in the world. I nearly came to tears then.>>

That is a very interesting way to put it. I think all of us have, as you say, a perceived "immunity to evils we read about elsewhere." We all have part of us that thinks, "Well, that could never happen to me," and when it does, the shock that accompanies the pain, the shock that makes us realize that terrible things DO happen to us just like to anyone else and that there is nothing we can do about it is horrible.

That day, New Yorkers went through that strange process alone and together -- as individuals and as New Yorkers. It was the weirdest feeling. It was very difficult to articulate. I mean, we went from feeling almost untouchable to realizing how incredibly vulnerable we were. We had known we were intellectually, but not emotionally, Then -- WHAM -- we all knew it emotionally. That opening scene of LOM brought back a time of naive arrogance when despite all the crime and drugs and corruption, etc., we still felt untouchable enough to build those Towers. Look -- it's been over 8 years and nothing has been built since, not there. Seeing that image, being reminded of a lifetime of thinking nothing could ever happen to changing over night to people who got jumpy when subway stops were closed or whatever -- it was weird.

e-klien-1 wrote: <<But, on a lighter subject....... I must say that the US version was enjoyable and I hope you like it.>>

Oh, I do -- immensely (no pun intended). I fell in tv-love with Michael Imperioli. Yum. His character is a misogynistic jerk, but he...yum! How sexy! And it's very NY, very of-that-time-period. It reminds me a lot of US cop shows of the 70s. People have complained that the Gene Hunts are different and suppose the are, but they need to be. I am sure Manchester detectives and NYC detectives were very different -- and Keitel nails that NYC, civil servant feeling.

e-klien-1 wrote: <<I just finished watching the UK version and it definitely was better overall - the acting, writing, and most definitely the ending.>>


I need to watch the whole BBC run. With subtitles. I'll miss that NYC feel, that obviously a BBC version couldn't have, but the lovely Phil Glenister will more than make up for it and that actor who plays Annie in the BBC run is quite lovely. I haven't seen enough to get past the looks yet. It took me a while to notice how amazing Michael Imperioli is, for example, with the US LOM, because he is not stereotypically US gorgeous (the way the Irish guy who plays Sam Tyler is, for example.).

But that voice on Michael Imperioli is as lovely as a glade-dappled river, running through dark secrets of glen and pine-scented forest...god, that man's voice is a thing of beauty.

e-klien-1 wrote: <<I totally disliked the ending to the US version, so when the UK series ended pretty much how I was hoping, I was extatic. When Sam and Annie FINALLY kissed (Damn, it DID take 'em long enough!) I was blubbering tears of joy. Liz White is absolutely gorgeous!>>

Is THAT her name? Yes, she IS. Oh, yes -- just my type. Beautiful! Gretchen Mol is pretty, but she is no Liz White. Blue eyes, brown hair, gorgeous complexion, a beautiful voice, and I think even dimples just slay me.

e-klien-1 wrote: <<I would have hated it if Sam hadn't finally come to his senses. Philip Glenister was the best thing about the series; I've seen him in other, minor, roles, but this had to be his best. I can't remember how many times I rewound just to hear him rip off one of his hilarious lines. Had me L'ing OL every time. And his car was the coolest! However, one (other) way that the US series was better - Michael Imperioli brought more depth to his role than Dean Andrews did in the UK version. I'd say he was probably my favorite character in the US series - and that's saying alot when Harvey Keitel's in the cast.>>

Michael Imperioli is the hottest thing in the US vestion. Jason O'Mara is stereotypically HOT, smokin' hot, but god, when Michale Imperioli opens his mouth...drool, narcotic glow, warm red and golden lust. I can't get over the way that man speaks. So delicious. Harvey Keitel is a great actor, but he is playing a paternalistic NYC civil servant of the 70s -- a very different character and not a lot of room to be sexy. Did you know I watched "The Sopranos" AFTER LOM? Yep. I never saw it before. But I jut had to see Michael Imperioli.

e-klien-1 wrote: <<"The way I see it, that's just a big waste of adrenaline; if your number's up, why fight it; and if it's not, why worry about it?" - Jack Savage>>

Trajan 7 wrote: <<Why becuse you keep arguing over what i said.

Just let it go i did not like the American version. Deal with it>>
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It's so funny. You want me to be saying or thinking things I am not saying or thinking, so you are proceeding with this conversation as if I had said what you want me to be saying -- never mind that I didn't.

You imagine that I am arguing with you over your dislike of the US LOM. But I'm not. You must know that. You can't be that dumb. You pretend to be convinced that I am upset that you don't like the US LOM. Of course, that's not true. However, you have decided it is, despite all evidence to the contrary, and have told me to "let it go." There is nothing to let go! You told me to "deal with it," but there is nothing to deal with. You may think whatever you like of the US LOM. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion of the show. It doesn't bother me -- and that bothers you, for some reason.

The other thing that bothers you, of course, is my question. I asked you, "Do you think your opinion is the only one that can be right, or do you believe it is just right for you?"

Obviously, I believe that my opinion is right for me, but doesn't have to be (in fact, often won't be) right for other people. There -- I have answered my own question.

But this question really bothers you. You won't answer it. That left me with two questions -- the original and then, of course, I wanted to know why you wouldn't answer my question. As I already pointed out, I answered it. I am not asking you to answer anything I wouldn't.

I wonder what you will do now. Will you continue the fantasy conversation you've been having with me in your head and come out with a non sequitur like, "I don't care what you say! You can't convince me to like the US LOM!"

Will you engage in some kind of ad hominem attack? You've been doing that to a certain extent already.

I am pretty sure of one thing -- your response, should you leave one, will have little to do with anything I have actually said -- but everything to do with what you think I should have said, or what you wish I had said. Oh, and you won't answer my question.