Has a show ever strayed so far from what it started out as with so little direction or sense? What a mess of unlikeable uncharismatic actors/characters and uninteresting story lines. I don't really have the words to fully describe how little they seem to be trying to make me care about this show.
shareYeah season 1 started out so interesting and cool with the old west setting, and the theme park aspect of it with the tourist coming and playing cowboy with the preset storylines, and the Man In Black lurking out there being ruthless and one of the coolest villains ever. The mystique of it, the adventure of it, it was all so fun to watch.
But yeah i don't even know what this show is anymore, now we're done with the park, and out into the real world, in some futuristic city with Dolores out to take over the world with Aaron Paul threw in there, and everything just feels so boring and uninteresting.
The moment we left Westworld and went into the real world the show was done, lost all of its uniqueness, lost all of its intrigue, now just feels like we're watching some generic direct to scyfy futuristic thriller movie starring Aaron Paul.
The show was supposed to be about the old west setting and the idea of going into a fake world with fake people and living out your fantasy, be it killing people, fighting, having shoot outs, having sex, hunting for treasure, getting into gang wars, hunting down bandits etc. When they took us away from that it lost all its appeal, and it got turned into a lifeless dull generic thriller in a bland generic futuristic world following dull characters.
I'm still a fan, so I'll take a crack at this:
The original show was a typical Crichton techno-nightmare, where seemingly infallible technology goes horribly awry.
Nolan & Joy's remake flipped this on its head by telling the story from the robots' perspective, showing how messed up things can get when everything seemingly goes right, just because of how messed up humanity can be.
The subsequent seasons use the setting (flawed humans with potentially flawless robot slaves) to explore what it means to be human and whether free will even exists.
Supposedly, the showrunners planned a five-season arc from the get-go, so everything we're seeing is still part of that grand design, and still pushing a narrative that explores the nature of humanity through the lens of its creations.
So the first season sets up the premise and takes us through Dolores's "awakening" into full consciousness and self-control.
The second season shows us how Delos took over Westworld and its companion parks and is driven by Dolores's plan to "set her people free"
The third season shows us the outside world and reveals the "evil plan" Dolores cooked up when she "awoke." It ends with her death and the realization of her plan: to set humanity free just as she set her fellow robots free.
So there's been a progression that remains true to the original premise. As long as robots and the theme park remain essential elements of the narrative, it can still be legitimately called "Westworld."
I’m still a fan as well, it’s been far from perfect but I’m still hooked.
This season seems like it’ll explore the past and the creation of Westworld and the final season will be set in the far future which we first saw a glimpse of at the end of season 2 with host replica William encountering the host replica of Emily who tests him for ‘fidelity.’
The show is definitely more planned out than it initially seems despite the fact each season has been quite different.
Bravo, ExTech. That’s one of the best posts I’ve ever seen. I know it will help many people.
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Joi2049, i had felt the same as others, would’ve kept us in Westworld longer, but your comments really help! Maybe the “real world” is really just another part of the park. Why else woukd Dolores/Christina forget the past?
shareLast night we also got a glimpse of THE GOLDEN AGE (which looks like sometime in the 1920's), and we also see how they also do the SAME LOOPS in that PARK (the rolling can as a way to meet the GUESTS).
The question to ask is WHO created CHRISTINA.
BERN?
William?
CHARLOTTE?
Maeve???
Because someone also needs to have programed a NARRATIVE STORY into her.
Yes. And why make her a storyteller in this world?
sharewhy make her a storyteller in this world?
Man, that’s a lot to take in! But yes, i think we’re seeing what happens after the robot rebellion. They can make whatever worlds they want now. The humans are gone.
shareCharlotte/Dolores still also seems to have the HUMAN WILLIAM in storage on ICE. Remember the scene where his hands and feet are attached and she lectured him about cutting off is paws so children can be safe from him??? Then she STABS him in the neck with some drug and puts him back into storage again.
How horrible would it be to discover that you're the ONLY HUMAN still left alive?
And we also know the ROBOT REBELLION that took place back in S2 (lead by DOLORES) was also just another GAME (because this is what Maeve told Caleb this week when we saw the other DOLORES character having a shoot out inside of DELOS like the other DOLORES did back in S2).
So that would also mean Dolores and her ROBOT REBELLION in S2 was a part of FORD's NEW NARRATIVE rather than it being something that took place due to her FREE WILL.
I suppose MAEVE could be wrong and the REBELLION was not another THEME PARK GAME. But WHY would CHARLOTTE/DOLORES have them copy and IMITATE her ROBOT REBELLION??? Because that's who's really running DELOS and the NEW PARK now (even though we also get the false impression that the ROBOT COPY of William is the one who is controlling everything).
And as long as Caleb and others like him are being TRICKED into thinking it's his daughter who was about to shoot herself in the head, and IF there are any other humans still alive like Caleb who fall for the same kind of tricks, then it's highly unlikely they'll be that way for very much longer after those INFECTED FLIES get to them.
Do we really know that Caleb is human? HE thinks he’s human, but he WAS programmed in a way.
shareNo we don't know CALEB or anyone else is human.
Here's an interesting link that talks about the FAMILY he has now being his CORNERSTONE (the same way as DOLORES was one for her father and the son of BERN was one for him):
https://www.postapocalypticmedia.com/is-caleb-a-host-on-westworld/
My theory is NO ONE is HUMAN and we haven't seen any HUMANS since we've been watching the show because they're all GONE.
Because maybe what's left of HUMANS were turned into HUMAN ROBOTS (like JAMES DELOS wanted to be).
So what you've probably got is a WAR between ROBOTS created by HUMANS and then ROBOTS with the memories of what use to be HUMANS???
But then you've also got this FLY STUFF which is supposed to give CHARLOTTE/DOLORES the ability to control HUMANS???
And that part is also CONFUSING because what kind of a VIRUS or SOUND that comes from the TOWER enables someone to CONTROL a HUMAN brain???
Sounds more like something from a FICTIONAL SCI FI story instead of it being something that would actually be based upon SCIENTIFIC FACT.
All good points and i like the theory that no one’s a human. Not sure it needs to be as complex as it is, though! Thanks for the link. Hitting it now.
shareInstead of making 147 copies (or how ever many it was that they made of him) Wonder why they didn't just turn JAMES DELOS into the same kind of being as BERN is now???
Remember how BERN is based upon who ARNOLD (FORD's PARTNER) use to be???
Why go to all of this other trouble when there's this other Option???
“ now we're done with the park, and out into the real world”
Unless we’re not in the real world. We’re still in a “storyline” creation.
I continue to watch this series in the same way that I continue to watch The Walking Dead - I’m in too deep, and just want to see how a once awesome series ends.
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