This was the line I hated the most and made no sense.
Yes lol, he was a guy with a very specific plan. Every single thing he did was part of that plan.
I just never understood why they had that line
When they asked him about his plan they meant what's in it for him. What's his plan as in whether he wants money or something.
His reply was correct. He didn't have a plan. He just went on doing things with no end game as such.
Which kinda made his character confusing. I would like to see some type of a prequel or something, cause otherwise the Joker himself does not make sense. But then again we could say the same thing about Bane. Like all a sudden one day the mad men just pop up out of thin air. Batman Begins to me had the best narrative cause the villains, Raz and Scarecrow, all had a part on the world before. Raz was a leader of a secret society/terrorist group, Scarecrow was a psychiatric that got involved with the criminal underground. Bane and Joker apparently didn't exist until they showed
Up in the movie.
But then again we could say the same thing about Bane...Bane and Joker apparently didn't exist until they showed
Up in the movie.
He also didn't notice that the Joker was first mentioned in 'Batman Begins' where it was heavily implied that the Joker was inspired by Batman.
And he thinks Rā's is spelled with a 'z'.
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The idea behind the Joker is completely lost on you then. He just wants to prove that anyone can lose their minds when pushed far enough and he just wants to "watch he world burn" and see people fall into chaos. The idea behind him is that he could be anybody. That's why this version tells multiple stories about his scares, that's why he says things like "do I look like a guy with a plan" even though he has some meticulous planning skills, and that's why he wants good guys to kill. He wants to remain mysterious so no-one can figure him out, and he doesn't really have a moral code so he will lie for his own benefit or to further his ideals of chaos prevailing over all else. The Joker goes to extreme lengths to show how he has no plan, but he is really intelligent and always has a plan or an exit strategy. But he is also willing to die just to make his point, he would gleefully accept death at the hands of Batman or Dent because he knows that could be a turning point for that character to go down a bad path. He just wants to prove to them that deep down they can all snap and be just like him. He wants to see heroes fall and for people to lose hope in heroes and he will do whatever it takes to make that happen.
Movies don't have to spoon-feed the audience and give them every single bit of information about about a character's backstory. Sometimes the mystery behind a character is far more effective and interesting than knowing everything about them. The Joker is an enigma (cue reference to The Riddler), that's his MO.
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Still a plan. Just a "meta" one, rather than straightforward (minimally different use of language). Also, seems like he kind of got to the heart of the matter with the question, by your own point of view, rather than the idea being lost on him.
shareI just never understood why they had that line
"Do I look like a guy with a plan?"
by fender818 » 9 hours ago (Sat Apr 9 2016 19:23:19)
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This was the line I hated the most and made no sense.
Yes lol, he was a guy with a very specific plan. Every single thing he did was part of that plan.
I just never understood why they had that line
Let me get this straight.
* He screwed his own thugs in the bank scene.
* He was teasing the mob telling them he wants the money.
* He was making up stories of how he got the scars.
* He switched the location of Rachel and Dent.
Now, these events are all well before the scene you had an issue with.
So the Joker was already shown lying to his thugs, manipulating everyone else for his own needs and yet you have an issue with "Do I look like a guy with a plan"?
Let's now forget well established fact that the Joker is a known liar both in the comics and this FILM, and focus on more philosophical side of that quote.
The Joker was obviously talking about the system and people like Dent and Gordon who have plans. "They are schemers".
Basically saying that if things don't go according to "the plan" they envisioned, they don't know what to do.
Guy like the Joker doesn't care what happens if things don't go his way.
He doesn't share their optimism because all he sees is the absurdity of life.
He laughs at their attempt to control things. It's all consistent with Ra's quote: "Create enough hunger and everyone becomes criminal"
So clearly when he's talking about "a guy with a plan", he's manipulating Dent to see the consequences of their plan.
Sure, the Joker had to plan all those things to set his "plan" in motion.
But it wasn't that plan he was talking about in that quote.
He was lying, to trick Dent.
shareJoker was deceitful and manipulated everyone.
How many variations of the story did he tell about how he got his scar...
He knew how to manipulate.
Joker used the wrong verbage. What he probably meant was, "Do I look like a guy WHO IS HIDEBOUND TO a plan?"
But he doesn't want to give that much of himself away to others. So instead he engages in absurdly reductionist rhetoric, understating his own scheming ways. He lies.