Feminism is like the Republican party, it's mostly represented by idiots, so regardless of it's good intentions the majority of the world laughs at you. If you ask any teen about feminism they'll laugh at you and think you're a retard.
Feminism is the idea that men and women should be equal. It's the struggle against rape, sex trafficking, slavery, mutilation, oppression and murder of women worldwide. It's really not that funny.
uhhhh no.... the police force/military are the ones who stop rape, mutilations, etc of women. Feminists merely bitch and cry, that does NOTHING, it's always other organizations that actually do the work. Do you think Feminism helped scientist lower the mortality rate of pregnancy? No. Do you think feminism has come up with treatments for breast cancer? No. Feminism has done nothing, yet claims everything. If you simply look at history many ancient civilizations treated women as equals when there was no feminism.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=56166§ionid=3510304http://www.crystalinks.com/egyptianwomen.html...those are just some.
There is a low percentage of female directors because it's a patriarchal industry — hence why we need feminism.
That makes zero sense to anyone with a brain. What you said is the equivalent of black racists shouting , "DA WHITE MAN HOLDING ME DOWN" or rednecks saying, "we fighting tha war because of 9.11".
You're simply the product of having a concept drilled into your brain. If you lived in the south you'd be a kkk member, etc. People like you buy into propaganda easily
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jamie_windsor
15 years ago
Thanks for that pseudo-psychological profile of myself. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to disagree with you as I do believe that sexism, heterosexism, homophobia and racism are all still very present in our society and need to be challenged. It's really not just propaganda — it's not even popularised by the media. The media has its own agenda: to make money.
My views are the result of years of advanced academic study into this area. Do you really think that your naive and bigoted ramblings are actually going change my opinion?
p.s. I do live in the south.
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titaniumtiki
15 years ago
My views are the result of years of advanced academic study into this area.
Really? By academic study do you mean being spoon fed biased statements and slurred statistics? You're motives are clear. You simply run off of personal insecurities and have become bitter because of it. Poor little girl, it must be so difficult living in a world that constantly offends you.
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jamie_windsor
15 years ago
Really? By academic study do you mean being spoon fed biased statements and slurred statistics?
No, I mean theses at post-graduate level. Reading up on many differing points of view and drawing my own educated conclusions; the antithesis of being spoon fed by the media really.
You're motives are clear. You simply run off of personal insecurities and have become bitter because of it. Poor little girl, it must be so difficult living in a world that constantly offends you.
My motives can't be that clear because for a start, I'm a man...
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turok670
15 years ago
Hilarious!
I love the academics that hang so much of their "debate" on what they studied or how long they studied, without even giving an argument. It's as if those of us who just read a lot or live in the world are completely unable to understand what you have to say.
"I went to school, I don't have to prove anything!"
You probably just took a few woman studies classes on your way to to BA or MA in computer science or something.
Also pretty sure the poster above you didn't say anything about the media. Rather your professors took their ideas and spoon them to you and you lapped them up. It happens a lot in college. Something people need to realize is just because an opinion is educated doesn't make it any less of an opinion.
For being so "academic" you sure don't act like it. I've always thought the reason we are educated in such things as social science in general is to share ideas and come to understandings. Like I said before it seems like you only want to "win" arguments over the internet. Sad times if you're really as educated as you claim. The people that disagree with you about something like feminism are the ones you should be trying to understand the most.
TomServo3500 bringing shame to his name since 2006.
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jamie_windsor
15 years ago
I'm not trying to offend anybody here. The 'academic' argument has spiraled from a defensive comment I made in response to an incorrect assumption someone made about me. I certainly don't think that being educated to a certain level gives one any sort of immunity from criticism. I do think that if someone has studied a specific subject to a high academic level, they are probably better equipped to comment on it than someone who has gained all knowledge on the subject through popular culture.
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turok670
15 years ago
You seem to get defensive too easily, maybe instead of just whipping out the old "WELL I STUDIED IN IT COLLEGE" you actually try to convince the person with your words rather than your "reputation" if you could call it that.
I rarely feel the need to bring up my education when talking to people about things on this site. I just glanced through your comment history and it seems like your bring up yours very often.
Not really saying one is right or wrong, just saying don't get so defensive. Because honestly your level of education means little when you can't really back it up other than to say "this discussion/argument/debate" is beneath me.
TomServo3500 bringing shame to his name since 2006.
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jamie_windsor
15 years ago
I've only mentioned it in response to other people raising the issue. I agree that it is not something to fall back on as I have stated previously. I have never said "this discussion/argument/debate" is beneath me. nor would I.
It's often difficult to sum up theories that have a plethora of literature written about them in a chat forum so sometimes I refer to written works I have studied in order to reference a point I'm making. I am certainly not using qualifications as a means to argue a point. Some of the most sexist people I have ever met have been professors in world-leading universities. — well maybe not the most sexist, but the most dangerously sexist as they wield a frightening amount of influence over the next generation of academics.
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uncleosbert
15 years ago
"Do you think Feminism helped scientist lower the mortality rate of pregnancy? No"
actually, yes. women's medicine like obstetrics and gynecology was always behind because doctors did not treat them equally. it wasn't until women's suffrage that they were taken seriously as people, and that had a huge impact on medicine.
you provided two societies that treated women as equals. you didn't talk about footbinding practices in china, you didn't talk about the rates of slave rape in the states, and you didn't talk about the reality of western medicine in the past centuries. how do you heal someone when you won't even look at her bits?
"The historic taboo associated with the examination of female genitalia has long inhibited the science of gynaecology. This 1822 drawing by Jacques-Pierre Maygnier shows a "compromise" procedure, in which the physician is kneeling before the woman but cannot see her genitalia. Modern gynaecology has shed these inhibitions."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_medicine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childbirth_and_obstetrics_in_antiquity
"We know some of the superstitions: women were whipped to induce labour."
"Obstetric forceps, a major innovation in the treatment of obstructed labour were introduced by the Chamberlen family about 1650, and were kept as a
family secret for many years."
how many women do you think died because they decided forceps should be a family secret?
"In his famous essay on Puerperal Fever published in 1842 Holmes emphasized that a physician attending a midwifery case should not take an active part in an autopsy on a patient dead of puerperal fever, erysipelas, or even peritonitis. He noted that if one case of puerperal fever arises in a physician's practice there is an increased risk of a second, two cases suggest that the physician should do no obstetrics for at least a month, and three prima facie evidence that he is the source of the contagion. The
time has come when the existence of a private pestilence in the sphere of a single physician should be looked upon not as a misfortune, but as a crime."
"Semmelweiss with the backing of the great morbid anatomist Rokitansky began to do autopsies on women with puerperal fever and noted that a high death rate from this disease was found only in First Clinic wards attended by students, and not in Second Clinic wards attended by midwives. Women begged to go to the latter."
http://www.neonatology.org/pdf/dyingtohaveababy.pdf
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