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How can you claim it's a good movie?

posted 17 years ago by niclol
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This movie was full of cheap humor, cheap nudity and cheap story. And come on, who are you trying to fool by claiming this "beauty in all" is smart, it's just a cheap trick to show nudity in an "intellectual" way.
It's not like it's helping anyone else to see beauty in all when they do like every hollywood director does and uses skinny model stereotypes to represent beauty. If the director would be serious with this "beauty in all" he would have showed the women as they really looked and by the actions and speech of the main character he would have explained how he reasons. But of course it's easier the cheap way.

As for the love story in the movie there was nothing at all interesting with it, predictable from beginning to end, and beside the love story there wasn't any more story.

See this movie if you want to see tits, but if you want to see a good movie then for gods sake don't see this one.

[–] mrernestjames 17 years ago

hey you're right

shrek 5 and alien vs predator 4 were much better films...

[–] niclol 17 years ago

The thing with this movie is that a very big crowd thinks it's very good, why I wonder?

[–] tiger-crane 17 years ago

why bother posting in this section if you didnt like the film? Its beyond me why you feel you wasted your time watching this film, yet you waste more of your time posting about.

Get a life mate

[–] kidjay83 12 years ago

Why not ? isn't that the point of having a forum to hear the different sides ? why make a forum soley based off onsided opinions?.Wouldn't that be considered being a troll? From the ratings it seems like majority of the stuff comes down to cheap nudity.As the above stated if it was such a thought provoking movie why rely on cheap hollywood marketing stragedy to sell the movie? Aren't indie films supposed to be more enlightening ? The premise to this particular story also raises red flags.A young guy is dating a girl who breaks up with him after which he becomes and insomniac???

Maybe you should be the one getting a life mate you were dumb enough to have watched this movie.No matter whether indie or mainstream people fall for the same stupid *beep*

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[–] lazyheadbanger 17 years ago

I couldn't agree more. This movie is completely boring and the ratings have been jacked up by people who consider movies like lock stock and two smoking barrels, snatch, layer cake as masterpieces. When compared with such movies the present rating of 7.6 out of 10 could be justified, but when you take it as a whole and compare to the real classics such as works of Tarkovsky or Fellini or for that matter even contemporary works of film makers like Paul Thomas Anderson or the Coen Brothers, this movie miserablly fails. It isn't even about the ratings on imdb, I don't really think you can quantify a movie into numbers but anyone who has spent a good amount of time watching movies will know for sure that this movie is not what they tell you to be. Harry Potter is a pretty famous novel and has sold many copies but people who are into books know that is nothing extraordinary but just a blatantly mass produced product. Something similar has happened here.

[–] Captainnn 17 years ago

I agree with what you said. But I don't see how people who liked Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Snatch, and Layer Cake would "jack" up the rating for a romantic/comedy such as this. None of those films are even close to the same genre.

[–] Gaysian_Lloyd 17 years ago

Layer cake is a great movie, so is snatch.

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[–] robin-lundh 16 years ago

Well, I agree with the Coen-comparison being stupid, but...

Fargo and No Country For Old Men are by far the best movies by the Coens, Fargo coming out on top. It seems to me you're just rating movies by how good and happy you feel by them. I can respect romcoms, I even love them, alot. But just wanting those endings/stories is just ridicilous. You have to see the movies for what they are.

[–] johnslegers 13 years ago

Different people have different tastes. I've seen Tarkovsky's "Solaris", but that one bored me immensely. The Coen Brothers are a matter of hit and miss for me and with regards to Paul Thomas Anderson... I've only seen "Magnolia" so far, but imo that's a masterpiece far superior to 99% of all films out there.

"Cashback" is one of those rare films I put at the same level as "Magnolia". Emotionally, I found it to be just as strong. Audio-visually, I've seen it only being surpassed by Darren Aronofsky and perhaps Jean-Pierre Jeunet or Tarsem Singh. Sure, the plot has some minor flaws but the emotional depth and audio-visual splendor make me easily ignore those.

I guess you are emotionally too different from the main character or myself to see the emotional depth put into him as well as the rest of the cast and to see the beauty this film is filled with. It's you're right not to like this film as much as any other film, but the attitude you're displaying comes off as pretty snobbish / elitist / narrowminded. Any cinephile should realise that liking a film is just as much a matter of taste as it is a matter of quality.

[–] mulhollandpsycho 13 years ago

You must watch "There Will Be Blood" by PTA. Genius!

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[–] AFireInside47See 17 years ago

I have no idea why people like this movie. I believe that the short film was very good, but I think the way that the director built a movie around it was terrible. The entire thing was predictable, and there were no real plot lines. If he's going to put in some guy running away when time is paused, then why not use that as a story line. I wish I could describe my dislike for this movie more, but as a whole, it sucked.

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[–] serial111 17 years ago

Mmmm. Interesting. You reckon the time-freeze could've made a great movie? I thank god that you are not a writer.

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[–] cableaddict 11 years ago

Lot's of sheep in the field.

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[–] liarliar713 17 years ago

i dunno. i kinda felt like it did a good job with the nudity...not all of them were really skinny, most of them were pretty curvy if you ask me. kinda falling into that voluptious women from the renaissance type.

i think as an artist, the whole beauty in everything is true...

[–] Duc_de_Richleau 17 years ago

I liked the film, hence I will describe it as a good movie.

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[–] jocelyn73 17 years ago

i would venture to assume that you aren't an artist of any sort.

I can't see how anyone could be and still attempt to claim that this movie is a poorly-veiled excuse to see breasts. Good lord, i will NEVER understand all you "breasts are PORNOGRAPHY!!!!" people. Seriously.

anyone who could watch the stunning camera work and not see beauty couldn't have been looking very hard at all.

just my 2 cents.

[–] Waidesworld 17 years ago

The movie has nudity. If you have an issue with nudity don't watch this movie. Leave us to those of us who accept nudity as a part of life so we can focus on how funny this movie actually is.

There are plenty of movies out there without nudity that are equally as funny (Shaun of the Dead for example) but if it says Rated R:For graphic nudity, sexual content and language then expect to see it!

[–] niclol 17 years ago

Well you didn't seem to understand my point at all, it wasn't about if it's okey or not to have breasts in movies, it's about why people thinks the nudity in this film is so smart. Nudity can sometimes contribute to a good scene but in this case it's just done so cheap. Read my first post again and if you have thoughts about my point then I would love if you commented, but if you just think it's a post about me finding nudity offensive, don't even bother replying because you obviously didn't understand my point.

[–] hellbent8390 15 years ago

u missed the tried point the movie. nudity was a must in it, the whole point of the movie was to show the beauty of women as a whole. From head to toe and as well as the social reaction of love.. we don't live in a narrow minded linear way there is always more then you perceive its just how much you want to perceive it. so take a moments and think a little bit harder.

[–] TheFrenchBastard 17 years ago

i was not bored watching this movie which mine and woody allen requisite for a good movie. end of story. loosen up america. havent seen tits before, yes you did , you sucked your mothers but you forgot...

[–] brewmasterman 17 years ago

True. If you took the time to see the content, why are you so offended when you see what you were expecting.

What is pornography, anyways? Religious brainwashing, perhaps?!

The flick is quite entertaining and features a variety of beauty in the female form. The Sweedish lady, anyone? It is funny, sexy, and heartwarming. Some may say it is predictable, but it is a romantic comedy. When the term "romantic comedy" is used, it normally implies predictability. I do agree, however, it is no masterpiece, but I would say it is a very good, funny, and a SEXY flick.

b.t.w. I use the term SEXY in a non-misogynistic way. I find the female form INCREDIBLY beautiful and I thought this film portrayed it in a non-rapist way.

We're AMERICANS! Why do we have to be so prude about nudity?! GET OVER IT! I don't believe in god, but are we not made to be attracted to one another?!

[–] naktsume 17 years ago

i wouldnt call it "stunning". haha it was interesting, but not stunning!

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[–] SuperbadPinoy 17 years ago

well said jocelyn73.

[–] Joey-Passmore 17 years ago

Totally agree. So sexit. Humor has all been done before, Trying to be the British American Beauty, and failing. Horribly.

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[–] Timetravelling_Monkey 17 years ago

Tell me something niclol do we all look really little to you from that very high pedestal you are standing on?

Hey I want to se a tit, send me your pic.

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[–] Michael_Galiatsos 17 years ago

Personally i also liked this film quiet a lot but i guess that this is not a very interesting film for the majority of viewers out there who prefer more fast paced movies.

You see when some of us enjoy the cinematography and the atmosphere in a movie some other people enjoy the fast and twisted plot of a film or some action scenes and stuff like that.

Its a matter of taste i guess.

[–] fricadell 17 years ago

I dont beleive that the nudity was cheap? What's so wrong with the female forms shown in this movie? I dont like the fact that it's "wrong" to show naked bodies but guns and deaths are totally okey.

I think he showed real women, look at the stripper for instance, small breast with a normal body. Sure they majority of the other "bodies" are nice but the film covers a young mans life! And it is natural for him to look at women his age-span and consider them beautiful.

Where I come from (Sweden)women in general tend to look like the ones shown in this movie. I have no idea where you live but if you come from a country such as USA then I can understand the fact that you say "he would have showed the women as they really looked"

[–] am-rendon 17 years ago

The "women as they really looked" comment would be true in the USA because the nation is the fattest. Keep in mind that this movie is from London and their style of film and tolerance for nudity is so different from America.

People are just so easily offended and enjoy picking things to gripe and moan about. There is truth to what previous posters have said. If you don't like the movie, don't comment. Why even finish watching it, for that matter? If the first 20 minutes were a bust, you must be truly idiotic.

[–] youaresquishy 17 years ago

The nudity parts were great. The other parts were mostly boring. The attempts at humor all fell flat.

But the worst part was the cliched plot device at the end where the girlfriend sees the kiss and (a) won't even bother watching the kiss for more than a second to see if he pushes her away or not, and (b) then refuses to even listen to the explanation of the guy she's supposedly likes, apparently for several days. Ridiculous.

Every time this sort of device is used in fiction, it's ridiculous, and it was already overused several decades ago. (I am speaking of the device where two people are in a relationship, one sees someone forced to some degree or other into a situation which makes it appear that the other might be kissing someone else but doesn't realize the other was forced, gets upset, and then refuses to even listen to the other's explanation.)

Even if somehow you haven't seen this device many times before in other movies and shows, it's still the case that it's just dumb. People who like each other don't actually act this way. And who would want a girlfriend who did act that way anyway and wouldn't even listen when you tried to explain what happened in a certain situation?

This is a bad film. It had a couple of good parts, but overall it is a bad film.

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If you don't like the movie, don't comment. Why even finish watching it, for that matter? If the first 20 minutes were a bust, you must be truly idiotic.

This is truly one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen written on the IMDb boards. This ought to go without saying, but for idiots like am-rendon it obviously does not, so I have to say it--the IMDb Boards are for people to discuss and criticize the films with which they are associated. It's ridiculous to try to claim that people who didn't like a film should not say anything about it. Why should they? Does it hurt your feelings or something? Are you insane? Your sentence looks just as silly as it would look if I were to say, "If you like the movie, don't comment."

The movie is a bad one. And you are a complete and total idiot, am-rendon.

Clearly you are too stupid to even realize how truly stupid you are, am-rendon. Clearly you believe yourself to be smart, because you're going around calling other people idiots.

So I'm doing you this favor this one time and I'm letting you know that you're actually the stupid one. You really are. You should stop being so trusting of the thoughts in your head--they are stupid ones. They tell you to write posts like the one you just did.

The problem isn't stupidity per se--but when people are too stupid to realize how stupid they are, they tend to go around believing themselves to be smart, and then they rely on the stupid thoughts in their brains when deciding what to do, and that's when stupidity hurts all of us. Am-rendon, please, for the good of everyone around you, you need to understand that, no matter what your brain might be telling you to the contrary, you are incredibly dumb. You really and truly are. There is absolutely no way anyone other than a complete idiot would have written what you did.

[–] Highly_Suspicious 17 years ago

This film is heavy handed, saccharine, predictable, slow, and totally unsure of itself. It doesn't know what it wants to be. Teen sex comedy? Satirical look at working class boredom? comfirmation of the human capacity to recognise and appreciate love and beauty? It takes the most derivative aspects of all of these and chucks em all in together, creating a horribly overrated mess.

And as for the people on this (or any) board that say there's no room for negative comments or that people are "waisting their time" by posting them, discourse and debate are what these boards are about. We're not all going to agree (especially when the film's this rubbish) with the satisfied folk here...

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[–] robin-lundh 16 years ago

Clearly you believe yourself to be smart, because you're going around calling other people idiots.

Number of lines am-rendon used to call a certain group of people, idiots: 5.

Number of lines youaresquishy used to call am-rendon an idiot: 19.

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