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Episode 16 - Ladies Drink Free


Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) let Mick Davies (guest star Adam Fergus) tag along on a case as they search for a werewolf. The three men run into Claire Novak (guest star Kathryn Love Newton), also working the hunt. However, the reunion is short lived after Claire is bitten and the brothers race to find a way to help her before she turns

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Ugh, Claire...

That's all I've got, sorry ;D

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So now there is going to be a cure for a werewolf bite. Poor Madison. So not exactly retreading old storylines just rewriting them.

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That seems to be the thing to do this season.

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The thing with Claire is that for every half a step forward her character takes, it's 3 steps back. I think she was semi-okay at the end of her first episode, because she came across as sympathetic, and then the next episode, she was trying to get people to kill Dean. Then in Angel Heart, she was okay towards the back half of the episode. And then in 'Don't You Forget About Me,' the one she was in last season, they'd reverted her back to the annoying character again.

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I just wanted to add that I think that Claire also suffers from the problem of expectations. I think our expectations are that the show wants to big her hunting skills up to a level that aren't realistic given her age, experience, and lack of a partner, but I think we've been shown the opposite.

I know she killed the Grigori, and she killed one of the vampires last season, but with the Grigori, it was really something she did for her Mom. With the vampire, Sam had weakened the vampire first, sort of like the Mama T-rex on Jurassic Park 2 wounding prey for it's young before letting it have the kill, and at the start of the episode, she was trying to cut the heads off random people. Her instincts that something was wrong in town were right, but over all, she wasn't shown as all that experienced, and in 12.16, it looks like she's going to get turned into a werewolf.

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I was okay with her after her first episode too. I understood where she was coming from and the pain she had been through. I didn't understand why she wanted Dean dead because of what happened inside the house. The place was crawling with child predators and her so-called father figure sold her out to one. He couldn't look her in the eyes when she confronted him. She knew what he did and she still wanted to 'avenge' his death? I was over her after that. I don't think she adds anything as a guest character. The eye rolling, bad attitude and smart mouth get old real fast when there's no wit, intelligence or otherwise attractive personality traits to offset the negatives.

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Yeah, Claire definitely suffers from 'I have no idea how to write a teenager, so let's make her snarky and rude and whiney and have her roll her eyes all the time. Oh yeah, and we'll have her cry about something sometimes too, because we need to soften her image.' There are a lot of problems with that all on it's own, but when you take into account that Claire isn't a young teenager and is actually of an age where she should be in college, then it becomes worse, because she's actually a woman the writers don't know how to write, so they revert back to writing her as a younger teenager.

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Couldn't agree more. It would be nice to see some growth for her character this season.

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She (Kathryn Newton) plays the same character on Big Little Lies. Belligerent, eye-rolling, angsty teenager who breaks her Mom's heart by moving in with her Dad and his cool new wife. Great show though.

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Hey Denese!

Nothing to add, just happy to see you lol.

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Hey Vee!

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Couldn't her mum try bullwhipping her?

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Most teenagers need to be bullwhipped.

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Claire needed bullwhipping.

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That's what I thought too.

I'm sure the brothers will save her, but then I think we all hope they don't/cant "in time"

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Maybe she'll go team up with Garth. SPIN-OFF!!! (Kidding)

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Ugh.

I know you're kidding, but I don't think they should ever do a spinoff

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SPIN-OFF OFF SCREEN! Let's make it happen!

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Lol, damn them for being such good hunters!

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