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Brenda has a good body but a really old wrinkly face


Can't understand why Fritz fell for her so hard straight away, he was always such a lovely guy, really good looking and so nice. She used him and pushed him away all the time, he deserved someone better.

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You're what, 14 years old? Skin develops wrinkles -- it's called "life." Failing to accept that is going to cause you a lot of problems, because real life isn't photoshopped, and most humans are sensible enough not to get plastic surgery. Next time you're out in public, take a look at real people who are 40 or older.

And btw, many people consider Kyra Sedgwick beautiful (I'm among them).

And btw, you forgot to comment on all the men's faces and bodies. That misogyny of yours is another thing that'll cause you a lot of problems in life ...

"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."

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I have a problem with her lips - they are so wide. But yeah, love her

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Kyra Sedgwick has had plastic surgery.

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I don't see any wrinkles—perhaps thanks to botox or face lift—and I'm a photo-realistic portrait painter, so I look closely at faces.
She does have an angular face—strong bone structure. Perhaps that doesn't appeal to OP.

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In a few shots, when the lighting isn't softened, you can see a few wrinkles on her face. But so what? (That's to the OP -- you don't seem to object to wrinkles or to have trouble understanding that real people have 'em.)

Between Twitter and Photoshop, humanity is headed in a bad bad direction ...

"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."

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Hey jamie125, please post a pic of yourself! Let's see what you look like. I would wager KS is 1,000 times better looking than you are.

We could take a poll! Let's do it!

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Kyra Sedgwick (the actress - not the character Brenda Leigh Johnson) was 40 when The Closer first started airing. In my opinion, she looked age appropriate & is still a very attractive woman. FYI Fritz didn't fall for her straight away. He & Brenda were acquainted before she went to Los Angeles. Fritz knew what he was signing up for when he pursued the relationship further.

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Fritz did fall for her right away, he took her for meals straight off the bat, he definitely liked her more than she liked him.
She messed him around so much, took ages to let him move in, wouldn't help him move in, then just as he did, she made him move back out again as her mother was coming over. She never put him first, he did deserve better.

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Fritz took her for meals immediately because they knew each other. Was she a kind, thoughtful person where he was concerned? Not always. Did she take advantage of him - especially when work was involved? Absolutely. Did he know what he signed up for? Yes. If Brenda was an awful person, that would make Fritz a moron &/or a masochist for marrying her. And I don't think Fritz is either of those things.

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I found that they had a dynamic of her being the taker and he was the giver. He had found his sobriety and he was a people pleaser. That was their thing.

In all of my life I have never known a couple, gay or straight, in which one person of the two doesn't have more power or control.

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In all of my life I have never known a couple, gay or straight, in which one person of the two doesn't have more power or control.
Not all relationships are about power and control, tho -- I think it's more accurate to expand that to "where one person has more power or control, or one person gives more and the other takes more." I offer this respectfully, and I offer it because I think we move farther away from peace and understanding when we see power and control as the bottom line.
. . . . . . I absolutely agree that there's always an imbalance in relationships, even in friendships, but perfect balance is impossible; I think the goal is to grow as humans -- to work on being aware of, and adjusting, the imbalance.
He had found his sobriety and he was a people pleaser.
I don't think that he *was* a people-pleaser. From what I know of 12-step programs, people who have successfully completed the steps give up such behaviors. In addition, there's an ep in S5 or S6 in which he says how glad he is to have become a person that other people can rely on; people-pleasing relies on so much manipulation that it often is incompatible with being responsible and dependable. Plus, he didn't shy away from pointing out Brenda's cr-p in an authentic and forthright way, and people-pleasers can't do that. He didn't do it often, but he did it.
. . . . . . . Someone in another thread suggested that Fritz, having faced his own big flaws, was tolerant of Brenda's; that, plus his need to be reliable and strong -- he's a law-enf agent; he's someone whom she and her family can depend on -- goes a long way toward explaining their relationship.

"All you need to start an asylum is an empty room and the right kind of people."

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