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Was this 'secretly' meant to be a parody?


I have to wonder if the people involved with this movie were really having a big laugh at the audience’s expense. I can’t think of another time I’ve seen a so-called horror movie and actually gone to bed still laughing about it. Cage in a bear suit punching out women – I can’t it help it, it was too funny.

When Cage does the immortal “Not the bees!” All I could think of was Steve Martin in The Jerk. “They’re shooting at the cans!”

When he gets his legs broken at the end, “Aagh my legs!” I kept thinking of was Will Ferrell in Austin Powers. I was waiting for him to start shouting, "It's getting really warm in here! Where did these goats come from?"

This is before we even get onto the ridiculous bike jacking scene and the last half hour where Cage starts punching out all the women (although by that point I could kind of see his motivation, they were a smug and annoying bunch)

And then he puts on the bear suit. He should do all his movies in a bear suit.

I am sure that the final scene where the bees sound around Leelee Sobieski in the bar was supposed to be chilling but I was on the floor by that point.

Admittedly the rest of it was pretty dull but those moments were a piece of fried gold and puts this movie up there with Hot Fuzz in terms of cop parodies.
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You know, I've often wondered if Cage wasn't "secretly" mocking the whole project. Can a professional actor really be that bad by accident?

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You know, I've often wondered if Cage wasn't "secretly" mocking the whole project. Can a professional actor really be that bad by accident?


I wouldn't be surprised if about 70% of Nicolas Cage's movies are him mocking the project. He's not a bad actor, so it's always (hilariously) bizarre when he is painfully bad or over-the-top in a movie.

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That's what I'm thinking; this could actually be the 'The Room' of horror movies.

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I have never bothered to watch another Neil La Bute film after watching this abomination, so it is hard for me to make an objective, general judgement over what sort of director he is. However, when I was on this board a couple years ago bagging the film, I had a La Bute fanatic (going by the name of Kaligula) go absolutely bonkers and repeatedly attack me for criticising the film and implying I misinterpreted the deep meaningfulness of the film even though HE HAD NEVER SEEN IT HIMSELF and refused to post what the film was REALLY about since he thought nobody else was capable of understanding the truly deep, meaningful message of the film. In an attempt to be fair I asked if Neil's other films were better or more meaningful, and other than one wishy washy recommendation for one film, all I got was "yes, he sucks" plus more lunatic rantings and ravings from Kaligula.

So, if one can judge a director by his fans, then, yes, La Bute's a pretentious loser who meant for Wicker Man to be taken seriously. If one can judge all of a director's films on the basis of the themes of his other films, and if the reviews I saw and read around the time of the film's release are correct in their overall consensus then, yes, he meant it to be a serious examination of the war between the sexes.

Some scenes also had me rolling on the floor. In hindsight I should probably watch it again as one of those films that are so bad they're good, but at the time I sure as hell couldn't forgive LaBute for his heresies against the brilliant original. At least Ed Wood made originals. It takes a special sort of no-talent to make a complete balls up out of such strong original material.

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Batsu you are so much smarter then everyone else!!! im not being sarcastic its just people ahve "attacked this movei without understanding it. i only realized it after watching the 4 minute video of "cage losing his Sh**". a 4 minute parody of Cages explosive moments on film, accompanied by the requiem for a dream theme music.. its awesome. only there did it occur to me.. "hey... maybe he is doing this on purpose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvYK-HmIuUE

in this interview cage admits the wickerman was meant to be absurd.

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Keep in mind that the director of "The Room" now claims he meant it to be so-bad-it's-funny all along. Yeah, suuuuure.

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yeah, but this had an actual cast

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Well, here's what Nic Cage had to say about this:

You don’t karate chop Leelee Sobieski in the throat and not know how absurd that is, but it’s just not something I would like to talk about. I would rather let them discover it on their own, but I think I learned a lot of that kind of off the wall kind of stuff watching Stanley Kubrick because his movies were incredibly funny, but you never really knew how much was planned or accident you know?

I am kind of amazed at the life THE WICKER MAN has generated because I knew being in a bear suit and doing those insane things with the character was doing would get talked about, but I didn’t know exactly how people would respond, but I had a feeling they were going to respond in a way that was going to have some impact, but I had no idea it was going to create this kind of internet sensation of bashing as well as laughter that it did and I’m quite thrilled about it.


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I am willing to believe the director was quite serious and Nic saved the movie by doing a secret parody.

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lol, Nicolas comparing this to Kubrick film's.. the guy really needs help..


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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ParodyRetcon

When you start out making a series film and then later claim that it was meant to be funny.

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'Robin Hardy added his feelings too: ”It was a complete failure. There was nothing enchanting. No fun. They just didn't get it. There was that pointless transfer of male to female; the music is Muzak, elevator music; and Cage makes a complete fool of himself. Christopher Lee told me that, after the film tanked, Cage happened to meet him in Hungary and he told Lee that they had no idea what went wrong. Frankly, I think [writer] Tony Shaffer cursed them, like the remake of Sleuth, which was an awful, dreadful film.'


http://www.anthonyshaffer.co.uk/screenplays/thewickerman%202.html

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If Cage wants to know what went wrong with the film, he should look into the mirror for the answer.

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I used to really enjoy Cage as an actor & love quite a few of his earlier films, but now I really can't even stomach any of his later works. It makes me sad. I'm thinking he kind of lost his mind right around Vampire's Kiss & never quite made it back to normal.

I can't even watch this POS. The Original was over-the-top & crazy, BUT IT WORKED!!! This? This is just...lame. I love cheesy movies that are cheesy on purpose (Mega Piranha!!!), but this is just painful to watch. I can barely make it through 5 minutes.

Too bad, 'cuz it's a really nice cast. Except for the scenery-chewer, Cage.

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lol, the summary made me lol.

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I just watched this after watching the original the night before, and I think the filmmakers wanted to make a parody but to pass it off as a remake to get it produced (cause who's gonna produce a parody of a 33-year old movie not that many people remember?*). I call it a parody-remake. It's somewhere in between. I mean, consider the scene in the schoolroom. That scene makes NO sense if you haven't seen the original film, but with the original fresh in mind, it's hilarious.

This film is a mess if you were expecting a proper remake, or haven't seen the original, but on the specific level of parody-remake, it's pretty good, in a weird way. I think anyone hesitant to give the filmmakers the benefit of the doubt on this hasn't seen the original. Although I haven't heard what the director's actually said about it.

*The irony is that the audience for such a project would probably be more than the amount of people who can actually appreciate this film.


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it IS a parody. if you've seen the directors' other movies you'd know that, as he often does satirical black comedies.

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"And the actor is thrilled he took the trouble to remake the classic - because he's convinced the project will scare film fans senseless. He adds, "I don't want you to just go 'Arrrrgh.' I want you to four nights later wake up in your bed at 3am and go, 'I can't get that image out of my head.' That's how I want to scare you with The Wicker Man."

Interview, August 2006

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/08/27/nicolas_cage_credits_the_late_johnny_ram

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I watched Wicker Man a few nights back - and oh yes this is a parody! - Cage punches a big dyke and takes her bear suit. Now that's comedy. I see Wicker Man as a cross between an old Hammer film and Benny Hill - the film is insane but very entertaining.

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"I watched Wicker Man a few nights back - and oh yes this is a parody! - Cage punches a big dyke and takes her bear suit. Now that's comedy."

It is indeed comedy - albeit of a hideously sexist character... to qualify as a parody it would have to be comedy of an intentional nature:

"parody:

1. a humorous or satirical imitation of a serious piece of literature or writing
: his hilarious parody of Hamlet's soliloquy....

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/parody?s=t&path=/

So did Cage *intend* his Wicker Man to be a "humourous or satirical imitation"?

Well, no. We know from an interview Cage gave long after the film had wrapped and on the eve of its release, that he intended the movie to be extremely frightening, to a point where the viewer would wake up in fear four nights after viewing it:

"And the actor is thrilled he took the trouble to remake the classic - because he's convinced the project will scare film fans senseless. He adds, "I don't want you to just go 'Arrrrgh.' I want you to four nights later wake up in your bed at 3am and go, 'I can't get that image out of my head.' That's how I want to scare you with The Wicker Man."

Interview, August 2006

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/08/27/nicolas_cage_credits_the_late_johnny_ram



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