Like that Gretchen brat at the beginning of the movie, or, well, pretty much Cassie throughout the entire film?
I don't know why Hollywood thinks it's noble for teenagers to be narrowminded and dissrespectful to people?
Indeed, 50 years from now, who is going to remember all these bratty bimbos on screen? Do they think it would kill them to write up a GOOD teen character who's actually smart and can be respectful?
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There were some things the kids said/did in this movie that reminded me of something my brother and I might have said/done (never 'i hate you' though), but it was never ignored by my parents. For instance when the dad asked Cassie to do something with the oven (I forget what) she didn't however he seemed to not care. My parents would make sure I did what I was asked, even if I ignored it or complained at first. They never let me get away with that. And I'm glad because when I see kids running the households nowadays (not necessarily in this movie but in general), and the parents doing whatever to keep the kids happy... it pisses me off.
It is normal for kids to rebel a little, but what is not normal is if they don't grow out of it. If you're 25 and still acting like you did when you were 15, talking back and being disrespectful, then you've got some problems.
Parents need to ensure that their children do as they are told. There will be no back-talking teenagers if the parents disciplined them properly. If my child does not do as she is told, then the Hand Of God Himself descends upon her. The only response acceptable in our household is "Yes Dad" or "Yes Mom".
shareexactly. smart + respectful = boring
bratty + disrespectful = entertainment
I found RV better than expected but I totally agree with this point. In my family immediate beating would be involved.
i agree Cassie in the movie was a total , well witch to be nice, she reminds me of my daughter she's also 15 when she's mad at me. yeah hollywood needs to give teen girls in movies some MANNERS AND MORALS
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Amen to that...I think it's safe to say we are SICK and TIRED of seeing bitchy whiney teenaged girls in movies. Give us another "The Legend of Billie Jean", give us another "3 Smart Girls", give us another "Shag", give us SOMETHING with some teenaged girls who can act better than 2 year olds.
shareYes I agree.
And my own children were scoffing at them going "what brats"
they know that any child worth anything doesnt speak to their parents that way, especially when they have good loving parents.
But I also blame the parents for allowing it.
But its some kind of epidemic in America. People think its "normal" and its not.
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What are you getting so indignant about?
.....youre probably one of them right?
AND FYI movies are where kids learn things...... you obviously dont have kids.
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Oh rest assured im doing my job as a parent. My kids are damn near perfect.
But I am a small minority. Most parents dont check into what their kids see or do and thats one of the reasons we have the problems we have as a country.
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Woah.... are you off.
Being rebellious is NOT a normal part of development. But yeah I can see how you think it is if thats how you were raised and all your friends.
If children are raised properly there is no need to rebel. My oldest has not rebelled and my two smaller ones are kind, obedient and very happy. My husbands and his siblings also were not rebellious. Iwasnt either.
His parents worked, mine did and my husband and I do so this is obviously a case of you and who ever you associate with getting stuck with parents who cared more about thier job or themselves than you and you rebelling to get attention or because you were mad or something. Im no psychiatrist but I can tell you... rebelling is not Normal just cause its the norm.
My kids dont have to rebel as neither did I nor my husband because we were all raised in close families where there was love and true intimacy, structure and freedom.
But again... I can see how you would not understand that if your not raised in it.\
I hope YOU dont become a serial killer. Almost all serial killers were neglected , abandoned or abused by their mothers. My children have no fear of that. lol
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Actually im not smothering them.
Its sad that you relate rebelliousness with that. Like you are either smothered or free. Like there is no middle ground.
You need to visit the "bible Best" my friend. There are ALOT of very normal, loving, stable, happy, Godly, and almost perfect families here.
God will you shut up? Everything you write is almost painful to read. I feel very sorry for your children.
For your information, being rebellious IS a normal part of development.
OMG youre stalking me.
Why are you following me to every board and commenting on every post ive made in the last two weeks?
Ger a life
Being rebellious is NOT normal but you wouldnt know that cause you live in the midst of it. Come live where I do where most of the children are not rebellious. They are loved and cherished and happy and taught well and have no reason to rebel cause they are free and not in bondage to sin and the horrible things that they are exposed to at public school.
and besides... youre the one being intolerant.... any moron can blurt out insults... grow up, grab a brain and have a mature conversation.
I read your comments on the Easy Rider board and was disgusted by your self rightous "I'm the perfect parent" attitude so I decided to see what else you've posted.
Being rebellious is perfectly normal in adolescants.
It's normal for a 10 year old to stay up later than his parents let him.
It's normal for a 12 year old to fake being ill so he can take the day off school.
It's normal for a 14 year old to take a sip of his fathers booze while hes not looking.
It's normal for a 16 year old to try a ciggarette for the first time with his friends after school.
It's normal for an 18 year old to speed the first day he gets his drivers license.
I don't know where you come from but all these things are a very normal part of growing up. About 90% of the people here at IMDB will agree with me.
And before you go blindly judging me again and telling me to "ger" a life (Don't mock my grammer in other boards if you can't master it yourself), just know my life is taken up with full-time work, caring for my sick mother at home and pilot training on the weekends.
In response to your other comment to me; yes I smoke weed. I smoke a lot of weed, and I'll be damned if a person like you can make me feel bad about doing it.
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Thankgod somone who isnt high on crystal meth made a decent opinion on this post.
shareIt's normal for a 10 year old to stay up later than his parents let him.
It's normal for a 12 year old to fake being ill so he can take the day off school.
It's normal for a 14 year old to take a sip of his fathers booze while hes not looking.
It's normal for a 16 year old to try a ciggarette for the first time with his friends after school.
It's normal for an 18 year old to speed the first day he gets his drivers license.
It's normal for a 20 year old to get arrested for drunk driving.
It's normal for a 22 year old to develop an addition to methamphetamines.
It's normal for a 24 year old to rob a liquor store at gun point.
It's normal for a 26 year old to stand at a street corner naked while rambling incoherently.
It's normal for a 28 year old to stab a man 17 times in the chest and then flee to Mexico.
no. the first few are normal. age 20 and up are all abnormal. this is an appeal to ridicule fallacy and a slippery slope fallacy.
just because a kid tries a cigarette doesnt mean hes going to become a meth addict. the other posters are right. kids go through a rebellious phase. its not just some anecdote. psychology backs this up. there is also a huge difference between a little rebellion (normal) and outright antagonism (abnormal).
I do agree. Kids with a conscience will not rebel, unless their parents are a worst-case scenario.
Do what you are obligated to do because, well, you're supposed to.
It's surprising, but there are a lot of people in their twenties who don't understand me. It's weird. It's like, in order for kids to grow up, they have to do it when they are in their late twenties or older and have a job...when they should of grown up at least in grade school...not when they are 30.
If you want something, do it the right way. Don't wuss out and go about it the wrong way, which usually hurts yourself and others around you. People usually wuss out when they feel like something is a bit difficult (and not necessarily difficult).
Often, to rebel against something that is right takes having to ignore your conscience. People and kids wuss out here. I think LittleGoldWoman is talking about a higher standard of parenting and a higher standard of self respect. It's what America needs. How do you think kids from Asia or other countries come here and do better? Higher standards, right?
are they all not self rightous with thier parents? ALL of them? i never met one who wasn't!
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