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People take this movie so called "religious" elements too seriously.

posted 10 years ago by bond_98
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For one this movie is not making any judgement. If you want a movie that tells you to believe or go to hell. You Watch another Nicolas Cage movie called Left Behind. I could only imagine he took that one for the money. The movie makes it deliberately vague if these men in black are angle or aliens. And its up to the viewer to decide which is which. Sure there are religious theme in the film. But they are neither patronizing or insulting. Unless your a raging militant atheist who finds everything even slightly religious insulting. Then sure you will probably hate this with a passion. Im not religious myself. But i don't consider myself crazy either. I hate preachy movies. That includes preachy Atheist movies. They are just as bad and just as annoying. But i would hardly call this preachy compared to something like Left Behind. If i was to believe this movies detractors this movie is the Religious version of Birth of a Nation.

[–] mrjoseph85 10 years ago

It's funny because in our society, angels are depicted as beings that look like us with wings and/or halos. Demons are depicted as vile grotesque creatures with sharp claws, sharp fangs, horns, and long tails with ab arrow tip end. You ate right about the "supermodels" being angels/aliens. This film lies in the middle. There is no right/wrong.

The Earth was in definite peril and it was up to the angels/aliens to begin again on another planet. This film is so different from others. Alex Proyas is a genius director. This film will forever be his finest masterpiece.

[–] Dragon_Kisses 10 years ago

^Agreed! This film is definitely a masterpiece.

I think the only religiously-suggestive scene was at the end, with the tree of life and Caleb and Abby being depicted as sort of Adam and Eve characters, but even that can be interpretted in a non-religious way. As I see it, it suggests that Adam & Eve were visitors from another planet (in this case, Earth), and I think it was pretty cool.

Also the scene where John's father told him that it wasn't the end, to which he replies "I know," but that doesn't make it religious. It could just be spiritual, which is how I took it, being spiritual (and non-religious) myself.

[–] nightwing60 9 years ago

Hell when he said "I know". He could have just meant it wasn't the End for Humanity. Even if his father was thinking of something else. Hate People take everything so literally in a movie that is not suppose to be taken literally at all.

[–] Jecht_Sin 9 years ago

Indeed. I don't see what's the point of arguing about the religion in it. Yes, the two kids at the end are the new Adam and Eve, together with other kids that will form other tribes. The blondies could be either angels or aliens, who cares. It's the apocalypse and to escape it there are only three ways: our own technology, alien technology or the mercy of God. The first and last apparently weren't available..

Someone should explain me the black stones, instead. They made no sense at all.

[–] antiphrasist 9 years ago

>Someone should explain me the
>black stones, instead.
>They made no sense at all.

Good, it wasn't just me.

Sadly, even Alex Proyas doesn't elaborate in his commentary.

For what it's worth, though, I think that early in the film, they're hints, at least, of where the pickup point is to be -- the river bed.

As for the upper layer of the stones rising a couple of feet when the ship takes off, perhaps it's the form of propulsion they use. Outside of the ship, it just affects objects with low mass, maybe?

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[–] goerge12344 9 years ago

to smart people, this movie is obviously religious propaganda. there is no subtlety.

[–] peter-alexandris 8 years ago

I didn't think it was religious, it was about aliens lol