And they also want both DD and GA back in their former roles.
All I can say is this is BIG news!!!!!! As a long time XF fan from literally day one but thought this film TOTALLY sucked, I was willing to just let the franchise die a complete death. There just didnt seem to be a point anymore.
But man, I have to admit I got super excited when I saw that. It sounds like with the success had with bringing 24 back as a 12 episode series, they want to do that with even older shows now. And X Files would be PERFECT for it.
Because now that means Chris Carter can have 12-13 episodes carefully (and finally) completing the freakin alien arc we all were promised to see a finale too ages ago. And if DD and GA comes back that would just be amazing. To get ONE of them back would but if they both come back would be estatic.
Now it doesnt mean its happening. And as reports said both DD and GA are in other roles right now, ironically both on NBC. GA is back on Hannibal this season in supposedly a bigger role and DD is on a new show called Aquaius as an agent hunting down Charles Manson (is it me or are they on some pretty creepy shows already lol).
Anyway I heard CC show on Amazon wont be renewed so I'm sure he is game to come back. If he doesnt I wonder will they still go through with it? But my guess is CC is the key, if he say yes there probably will be a show, even if its a limited one for a season. Obviously DD and GA are just as important but even if they just guest star and hand it over to a new batch of FBI characters that would probably be fine too.
I've seen worse too, but I did think it really sucked. And probably why X Files 3 look like it was never going to happen. Especially since this did so awful at the BO. I just didnt like this was the last we saw of that franchise.
But now if they can get a series going again, even a limited one, it will give Carter the room to end the series on a good note and finally resolve the alien arc. And since its a show and not a film, they don't have to worry about the kind of money they would need to do it right on the big screen. IWTB only cost $20 million--and it showed!
If this is true it totally explains why CC didn't want to go on with the After for Amazon - it was a crap show his heart obviously wasn't in. But where did you hear this news about the reboot talks???
Sploiter, will you ever give up this insane notion that he fired Amazon? They fired HIM. Who in his right mind gives up a series he says over and over he wants to run for 99 episodes for what at most will be a 15-ep miniseries?
You keep accusing me of being a hater nursing old grudges, but according to you, he's an idiot who is perfectly content to spend the rest of his life being identified with just one show. You hated his pilot so much, didn't you? Well who the hell do you think is to blame for it being so bad?
The only thing we know for sure is that this means is that IWTB never gets a sequel. No XF3. Aw.
2)The Area 51 thing for AMC is not going to happen.
The one thing Carter, Duchovny and Anderson all said couldn't happen was another series. They wanted movies. But they're not going to get them. Carter has no other options, but Duchovny and Anderson do--they still remember the endless grind of making the show. They are not young anymore. They both have TV jobs already. So it comes down to finding a window the two of them are both available, and Anderson sounded VERY reluctant. This could still fail to come off, but since it's a limited-run series, they might work it out.
Carter would not wrap it all up. Hate to tell you. It would end on a cllffhanger. He will not finish the story. He'd try to set things up so they could do more later on. Only the ratings would be pretty poor--even the 24 limited-run didn't do that well.
I think the negotiations will hinge on whether Carter is willing to take this in exchange for giving up his exclusive hold on the franchise. HIs veto power, you might say. He is not in a great bargaining position here. 20th would like to do a movie reboot franchise someday, with new actors, new writers, new producers, real movie director. Carter has been in the way.
I'd say this is a relatively low-risk maneuver by FOX--their ratings have been terrible--their development has been for *beep* They also want to do a Prison Break limited-run. This is where their heads are at now--revisit old hits.
Please understand, when they say "We'd never do this without Chris", they mean they can't. They're contractually obligated to have him involved in some way.
So it comes down to whether he's willing to be reasonable--at a time when his career has been in limbo for 15 years--and whether the actors, Anderson in particular, are willing to commit to the kind of intensive long-term production schedule they hated so much. Duchovny clearly is, but he's already got a series. Anderson has a recurring role on a series, which is much less time-consumptive.
This may happen. If it does, it will suck, and it will tank.
But XF3 is now definitively conclusively dead. DFowley was lying. I was right all along. If this happens, I'll see you at the post-mortem for the crap miniseries.
I guess we'll just have to see what happens. But I'm super excited there is even talk of bringing it back. Even as the show got crappy in the last seasons and the less said about IWTB even better. We'll see. The fact FOX has confirmed they are talking about it means they very much want it to happen.
No, it just means they're trying to relive their glory days. The network really has become an embarrassment. If they don't get this, they'll just revive something else. I think the main objective is to revive the brandname, but they can't do that with this team, so hopefully they can get Carter to agree to let go of his chokehold on the franchise.
If it does turn up on TV, in a year, or two, I won't be watching. Seriously, I'll probably tune in here and there just to confirm my suspicions, but I don't even watch repeats of the eps I used to love (which are on El Rey, of all places). There are shows you come back to again and again over your life--this isn't one of them. Not for most people. Which is why I don't think the ratings are going to be that great.
What I'm curious about is how it gets made--Frank Spotnitz did most of the actual showrunning for most of the show's run. Spotnitz is all wrapped up in another project, with Ridley Scott--his new master. Carter's failure to get The After off the ground, even as a web show, is probably due in part to his not having his faithful stooge anymore. This would be a far more challenging thing to do, and I really question whether he can manage it--unless history repeats itself, and 20th hires all his production talent for him. Only they're not as good at that as they used to be.
I was talking about the poster who kept insisting he/she/it had written a script that Carter wanted to use as the basis for XF3. That poster was lying, and everybody knew it, except for a few other posters here, who shall remain hopeless.
I think the only way this could be any good is if:
1. They leave the mytharc alone and just concentrate on standalones. The 2012 thing was scraping the bottom of the barrel in the first place and would seem doubly awkward now it's not 2012 any more.
2. Carter stays well away from writing any of it. Not gonna happen by the sound of things.
I don't think that CAN happen--Carter is very wary of being separated from his mealticket. They'd have to make all kinds of promises--that's one reason you're seeing the FOX execs gush about him--if they think so much of him, why has it taken so long for this to happen?
I've long figured that back when he was at the peak of his power, he got his contract renegotiated so that he had ironclad veto power over the franchise. I always wondered when or if that veto expired. Gene Roddenberry had something like that over Star Trek, but either it expired, or he just gave up--they made the movies without him, but he was very much involved with the Next Generation series--until his health gave out.
Since this is going to be a limited run thing, patterned after the recent 24 limited run, I'd assume it would be one continuing story. The assumption from some quarters would be that they'd follow up on the alien colonization storyline--but 2012 is long past--this thing can't come out before 2016, if it happens at all. And they already did a version of that story on Fringe. To somewhat lackluster ratings. Plus there's Falling Skies.
I really wonder if Anderson is going to agree to this. Duchovny would be a softer touch, if he didn't have his own series coming up. They did not want this--they wanted a movie here and there.
It's obvious that FOX are looking for something - a series - that will get a lot of viewers and thus will be renewed for a second Season, and maybe more. They are hoping that this will be a re-boot of the X-Files.
Now it is unlikely that they will repeat what has already gone before - more than likely a series in which the FBI reinstate an X-Files section, with new agents doing the investigations. Now it is unlikely that David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson would want to do a full 13 episode series because of their existing commitments. Both DD and GA would be more interested in doing a blockbuster 3rd X-Files film. They may be willing to do a limited series (say of 6 episodes) in which Fox Mulder and Dana Scully are brought in (sometime after the timeline of The X Files: I Want to Believe) to help the FBI establish the new X-Files section, in exchange for XF3.
FOX would almost certain have two new agents lead the new section, this time with the female one being the believer and the male one the skeptic. There would need to be both monster of the week and also mythology episodes - with the latter leading up to the XF3 film.
Gillian has already expressed some views on returning to a limited TV series rather than a film:
"I need to wrap my brain around what that would entail," she said. "I live in London. I've got three kids, it's not a small proposition and it would take a lot longer to shoot than a movie would. I need to think about that"
Will any of this actually happen? I'm not sure. I suppose it all depends on the suits at FOX and what they really want to achieve.
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I dont think they would assume both DD or GA would come back full time IF we are talking a yearly series again. But I'm not sure we are. But lets say that is being talked about I also see it where new agents would be involved in The XF and Mulder and Scully would be more or less guiding them. Officially or unofficially its too hard to say obviously but the point is I dont think the show will directly be about them anymore, especially as both of them are on other shows. Although thank god Crisis got cancelled. I actually watched it and didnt hate it but it felt too much like a poor version of 24 and GA, while good in it, is better off on Hannibal. Cant WAIT to see where she fits in this season.
And yes DD now has a new show, although who knows how far it will last. It hasnt even aired yet. But my guess is they probably wouldnt mind coming back as supporting roles or guest stars but I don't know if either one wants to do it full time...or has the time to do it full time.
Reading the EW article whats funny is it sounds like Keifer Sutherland is not to keen on coming back to 24 now, even with a reduced season. Now that seems waaaay more difficult to have another season without the star. Yes X Files is basically Mulder and Scully but it can live on without them IF they find a good way to hand it off to others. Thats the real question.
Its no way they will ever recast Mulder and Scully as long as DD and GA are around and wants to do it.
And my point being is LIKE they tried to do in season 8 this would be a good way to pass the baton off to other people. Sort of what the new SW trilogy is doing. Who knows if thats what they are thinking but if they cant get DD or GA full time, this is a way to go. Keep the other two there but revolve it around other agents.
Why Doggit and Reyes failed is besides they look like they were trying to replace Mulder and Scully it was obvious it was only being done to keep the show running. This would be different and to offer up new characters for a new audience. Wouldnt have the same stigma as it did on the original show only watched those characters for years.
And as I said they would still be there, just not necessarily all the time. And I'm only saying pass the baton if this goes longer then a season as they will get the audience use to those other agents as well. And this is only if DD and GA either dont want or have the time to come back full time. They are both pretty busy now although I suppose if their other shows gets cancelled that leaves room lol. But thats just way too much speculating. I think at the moment the best thing is to assume they get at least one season and hopefully can get DD and GA for it.
I don't think they're counting on a long run. It's just a nostalgia kick they're on now. They're experimenting, because their development has been so awful.
If there is one thing CERTAIN it would be that if Mulder and Scully were to be re-cast that would be the DEATH of any reboot, and probably any XF3.
I think however that DD and GA are in a good negotiating position. They will say that "if you want us to appear in any (short term) reboot then we MUST have a properly funded third X-Files film. Otherwise, no dice".
FOX will then have to get their bean-counters to do the sums,
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If this was a joint project I could see it.. but since it is all but assured it would be Carter and Sponitz running it I don't have much hope. I'm sure this would just lead to Carter trying to reboot it fully with two new agents again.
It became clear the mytharc was being written as it went along and then finally you thought oh maybe it will be wrapped up.. instead they just started a new one in season 8.
Carter is a talented guy and Hollywood knows it - and they know how golden X Files is and they want more of it and so do fans. How many other 90s shows have such a huge active fanbase as X Files? Not so many.
Adam Nixon · The title is misleading, because they're not talking about a true "reboot" of the series, but rather a continuation.. There really needs to be a rule... if it's a continuation of the original series, and the plan is to try and have the original stars back reprising their role, then it shouldn't be called a "reboot." It should be called a "revival", "continuation" or "follow-up series" or something along those lines. Because it doesn't fit into the context of what the term "reboot" suggests, and is needlessly misleading for readers.
Richard Tweedell · Nonsense. Reboot is techno-speak for restart--to start again. When you restart your car after it's died, you're just turning it on again. When you restart anything that has stopped, you're typically picking up wherever you left off. It doesn't inherently imply starting over, starting from scratch, beginning anew.
Adam Nixon · Richard Tweedell The term "reboot" has come to gain a new meaning within the realm of fiction, and a quick google search will yield the following definition: "In serial fiction, to reboot means to discard all continuity in an established series in order to recreate its characters, timeline and backstory from the beginning." (Various sources confirm that when it comes to fictional content, this is the accepted definition.) So yes, when it comes to fiction, "reboot" inherently and explicitly implies a literal restart of something with a complete wipe of the prior continuity/canon. Hence, this article is improper in using the word "reboot." (In reality, it's only being used for cheap clicks because it's a buzzword people hear thrown around a lot, despite being inaccurate to the situation.)
Can't help but think there's been a LOT of wasted and misguided speculation occurring in this thread considering the spot-on observation and follow-up provided by the commenter Adam Nixon.
In that regard, I'm with Adam. "I'm all for bringing back "The X-Files" with it's original stars and continuing with new stories"...in whatever form that may take.
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