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The movie would have been markedly better if when Xzibit opened the box, he didn't find the head of the missing and abducted FBI agent, but rather finds the head of Amanda Peet's character, who at the same time is being intercut still alive and chasing the suspect. Honest to goodness, this is actually where I thought they were going with the scene and was bitterly disappointed to find the actual development so rote and basic. It's just the missing victim's head in the box? Oh geez, how interesting. Amanda Peet's head at least would have introduced some intriguing paranormal element to the film, which the movie extremely and sorely lacked. What if halfway through the film, they now discover there's some insane (non-alien) time traveling abductions and organ snatching? Would have been awesome and at least something to shake up the tedium. All we got was a moderately messed up episode of Law & Order: SVU (with some inexplicable Grey's Anatomy crossover) that for some reason guest starred Mulder and Scully. It sorely lacked that creepy X Files vibe, despite some above average photography and direction. Gillian Anderson was also great, as usual.

The script and plot is the absolute failure of this movie (and also the music, but that's another post). If Carter and Spotnitz wanted the theme of the movie to be about God and faith, why not take a page out of their own past episodes that deal with that? I always found one of the most interesting character traits of Mulder and Scully is that Scully is a practicing Catholic (despite a good scientific skeptic) and that Mulder is an atheist (despite his kooky beliefs about everything else under the sun). Mulder and Scully did not seem to inhabit these aspects of their character previously established. Mulder readily accepts and believes Billy Connolly's character right off the bat. Scully disbelieves. The movie would have been more interesting if this was reversed. We could then have Scully wrestle with the concept that she believes a pedophile psychic and dealing with Mulder's opinionated bluster. Sure, it may be too reminiscent of "Beyond the Sea", but that was one of the best episodes of the series. I wouldn't mind having them mine more out of that dynamic.

Also, if they wanted religious themes, why not go full steam ahead and incorporate the devil somehow? The series didn't shy away from this with episodes like Die Hand Die Verletzt, All Souls, and Signs & Wonders. What we got was a (Russian?) doctor, whose backstory was never even once touched upon (isn't he the true "monster" of the movie?) attempt to save the life of a gay (and transsexual?) victim of sexual abuse by taking some uninteresting inspiration from Frankenstein. Wtf? I'm sure it's been said before, but writing this character as gay is hugely problematic and only perpetuates abuse stereotypes, while not really servicing to the plot in any meaningful way. In any event, what was so special about this guy that they needed to kill multiple women to save his life? Why put all their resources into this? They seem to imply he was just a working class, rural and average guy. Wouldn't this concept have made more sense if the person in question had power and resources? Like a rich, wealthy Russian oligarch?

There's just too many flaws and plot holes in this movie that I could go on frustratingly for pages. Let's just hope the new 6-episode series lives up to the hype and brings us back to the style and tone of yore. I Want To Believe.

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by fluffyburger » The movie would have been markedly better if when Xzibit opened the box, he didn't find the head of the missing and abducted FBI agent, but rather finds the head of Amanda Peet's character, who at the same time is being intercut still alive and chasing the suspect. Honest to goodness, this is actually where I thought they were going with the scene and was bitterly disappointed to find the actual development so rote and basic. It's just the missing victim's head in the box? Oh geez, how interesting. Amanda Peet's head at least would have introduced some intriguing paranormal element to the film, which the movie extremely and sorely lacked. What if halfway through the film, they now discover there's some insane (non-alien) time traveling abductions and organ snatching? Would have been awesome and at least something to shake up the tedium. All we got was a moderately messed up episode of Law & Order: SVU (with some inexplicable Grey's Anatomy crossover) that for some reason guest starred Mulder and Scully. It sorely lacked that creepy X Files vibe, despite some above average photography and direction. Gillian Anderson was also great, as usual.

And turn it into another Sy-Fy Channel'esque B-Movie? The X-Files was always meant to ride that fine line between what-if's and real-life believability, so combining time-traveling WITH organ snatching as the paranormal aspect would have bordered more along the lines of desperate overkill than the originally intended fine line IMO.
by fluffyburger » The script and plot is the absolute failure of this movie (and also the music, but that's another post). If Carter and Spotnitz wanted the theme of the movie to be about God and faith, why not take a page out of their own past episodes that deal with that? I always found one of the most interesting character traits of Mulder and Scully is that Scully is a practicing Catholic (despite a good scientific skeptic) and that Mulder is an atheist (despite his kooky beliefs about everything else under the sun). Mulder and Scully did not seem to inhabit these aspects of their character previously established. Mulder readily accepts and believes Billy Connolly's character right off the bat...

Not sure which movie you watched, but...
by fluffyburger »...Scully disbelieves. The movie would have been more interesting if this was reversed. We could then have Scully wrestle with the concept that she believes a pedophile psychic and dealing with Mulder's opinionated bluster. Sure, it may be too reminiscent of "Beyond the Sea", but that was one of the best episodes of the series. I wouldn't mind having them mine more out of that dynamic.

Which is exactly what we got later in the movie, so again, not sure which movie you watched, but...
by fluffyburger » Also, if they wanted religious themes, why not go full steam ahead and incorporate the devil somehow? The series didn't shy away from this with episodes like Die Hand Die Verletzt, All Souls, and Signs & Wonders. What we got was a (Russian?) doctor, whose backstory was never even once touched upon (isn't he the true "monster" of the movie?) attempt to save the life of a gay (and transsexual?) victim of sexual abuse by taking some uninteresting inspiration from Frankenstein. Wtf? I'm sure it's been said before, but writing this character as gay is hugely problematic and only perpetuates abuse stereotypes, while not really servicing to the plot in any meaningful way.

It could also be said that the story addressed very real potential consequences of the ongoing abuses that have been perpetuated in the church (religious theme). It seems that could be viewed as monstrous enough even without the additional Frankenstein inspiration, but apparently, even the combination of the two still makes the subject fall short of being interesting for some...to which I agree. Wtf?
by fluffyburger » In any event, what was so special about this guy that they needed to kill multiple women to save his life? Why put all their resources into this? They seem to imply he was just a working class, rural and average guy. Wouldn't this concept have made more sense if the person in question had power and resources? Like a rich, wealthy Russian oligarch?

The fact that the character was presented as just a working class, rural, and average guy made the apparent disregard for other human life all the more troubling IMO. It's not like these operations were happening on some remote compound in another country (ie; Russia) after all, they were happening at a location that could just as easily be right down the street from where any of us working class, rural/urban, average people are living right now.
by fluffyburger » There's just too many flaws and plot holes in this movie that I could go on frustratingly for pages. Let's just hope the new 6-episode series lives up to the hype and brings us back to the style and tone of yore. I Want To Believe.

Maybe these installments would be more enjoyable if you didn't get yourself so hyped up with expectation in the first place?

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It's just the missing victim's head in the box? Oh geez, how interesting. Amanda Peet's head at least would have introduced some intriguing paranormal element to the film

Yes, it would've been much more surprising and intriguing, but don't forget it's easier to create a mystery than to solve it. And if you can't solve it in satisfying manner later, you shouldn't use it begin with. Think about Lost.

I don't know what the other guy is talking about, this movie was disappointing even by the very low standards of Season 7, 8, and 9.

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by zee944 » I don't know what the other guy is talking about, this movie was disappointing even by the very low standards of Season 7, 8, and 9.

Opinion vary.

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this movie barely had anything paranormal

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