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Question about Waterloo surveillance

posted 10 years ago by sugar_n_spice
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I don't know how many people visit this board, but I just finished watching "Ultimatum" for... I don't know which time, but I love these movies. Anyway, when they're following Simon Ross in Waterloo trying to find out who his source for the Blackbriar article is, at one point Vosen tells everybody, "Get me CCTV's eyes."

Now, they don't know about Bourne's involvement with Ross yet, or if the source really is at Waterloo. They just know that's where Ross went, so they're trailing him.

But here's the thing: Ross is a British National. On British soil. Maybe somebody better versed on international relations could help me out with this, but exactly what right would the C.I.A. have to utilize British surveillance to track a British citizen for their own ends? Keep in mind that this led to the assassination of Ross in Waterloo - a highly public place.

How many laws was the C.I.A. breaking while spying on Ross? And how did the C.I.A. think they could get away with this without the British government finding out, and without any form of punishment or retaliation?

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[–] sugar_n_spice 10 years ago

Thank you for replying! I didn't think I was going to get any replies.

I guess I can see them going "under the radar" if they were just looking for Ross' source. But mostly my confusion stems from Vosen declaring that both need to be taken out - it won't take long for U.K. police to ask Ross' boss what he was working on. Even with "Blackbriar" only being something vague, they'll still know he had been interviewing an American high up in the CIA before he was killed. It wouldn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together.

so if the British government found out and objected, the CIA could show that Ross is compromising CIA classified programs.

This is a good point, and we'd probably only get away with this with a country as "friendly" as the U.K.

It just struck me, though, how much sh-t he U.S. is in, diplomatically, at the end of this movie. Probably even bigger crap than the recently-published torture report put us in (which, honestly, I'm ashamed that more of my fellow citizens weren't thoroughly outraged at).

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