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K they kinda screwed w/ putting Robert Englund in..


I mean if this world is supposed to have all the movie killers be real. Then wouldn't Freddy Krueger have the same face as Robert Englund. Like when the documentary crew did the background check on Krueger wouldn't they have seen a photo of what he looked like before he died?

You kind of see what I'm trying to say.

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Puh-leeeze!

I can see you are saying that you haven't got much of a sense of humour. Or understand anything about independent film making.

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I can see you are saying that you haven't got much of a sense of humour. Or understand anything about independent film making.

I really don't see what this said about his knowledge of independent film making... I really don't.

Hit the reply button on MY post (only) if it's ME you want to reply to.

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I totally agree with you, projectmayhem969. It always aggravates me when filmmakers think it is cute to make a reference to another movie when someone who was in that movie is in theirs too. In Armageddon, for instance, Pulp Fiction is mentioned even though both Bruce Willis and Steve Buscemi are in it. That whole Hollywood inside joke thing is a low-class move and can really take the watcher out of the movie.

As for Robert Englund, I think it is a shame that he had such a small role here. And yes, since he was Freddy Krueger it was especially dumb to put him in a world where Freddy is real and isn't him. Robert Englund is like that though and I think he always has been. He loves the horror genre, loves being immortalized as Freddy, and loves those cutesy little inside gags. I have loved the Nightmare on Elm Street films since I was a kid and Englund will always be Freddy to me so I forgive him. That remake was unwatchable.

As for those who think the inside jokes are funny, more power to you. Just don't put down another reviewer for not agreeing with you.

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I see what the OP is saying and s/he completely right. It's just that my admiration for Mr. Englund's acting and eagerness to see him in any movie outweighs my care for movie logic.

But it is a fault in the movie (which I loved anyway).

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'Yeah, he told me you're gay.'
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IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK...






its watchable for katie cassidy :D






spectre can

suck it.

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that wasn't robert englund. that was doc halloran. there is no robert englund in the reality of this movie. there's a guy named freddy kreuger who looked like doc halloran (except for the fact that he is completely covered in burnt flesh and lacks a beard.) but the people in the movie would not know that because they probably haven't seen many pictures of fred kreuger or would remember what he looked like at a moment's notice if they had.

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No, because the movies are fiction. In this movie Freddy the killer doesn't actually come for people in their dreams. This movie presents him as a real serial killer, not a nonphysical entity attacking people in their nightmares.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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And having Jason Voorhees going into 1428 Elm Street didn't blow their minds as well? Although, to be fair, he did die as a kid and nobody would see his adult face... well, it doesn't look much like Kane Hodder, anyway.

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I don't see it that way, and think it actually makes sense to have him in the movie for a horror-movie cameo, and also a way for the audience to distrust him because of what we associate him with.

I think of it kind of like Last Action Hero, a movie about Arnold Schwarzenegger playing a character in one of his movies, that a child is sucked into due to a magic movie ticket. To try and prove to Arnold's character that he's in a movie, they go to a video store and the kid tries to show him an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, but "Terminator 2" is shown to star Sylvester Stallone instead. In the movie universe he travelled to, there is no "Arnold Schwarzenegger" actor for the character played by Schwarzenegger to discover.

In this movie's universe where Freddy Krueger, Jason Voorhees, Michael Myers, etc. are all real and actual killers, they don't necessarily have to look like the actors that portrayed them in their movies in our universe.

It's the same reason that on Law & Order: SVU, no one in the squad was surprised to see a former rapist and murderer who they sent to jail in one season pop up as their new ADA in another. Diane Neal played both parts, but to the SVU team they don't both look like actress Diane Neal and happen to be triplets separated at birth.

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Yes because no two people on the planet can happen to look like each other, right. Like another poster said, Englund doesn't exist in this movies universe, two of his characters do. Also we never know if they saw a pic of Kruger, you're just assuming that.

PS: Did the OP have the same question when Eddie Murphy was more than one character in the nutty professor, or any of the hundreds of other movies where an actor plays more than 1 person?


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It would have worked better if Robert Englund was playing Frederick Kruger, and was part of the act for Leslie's thing, pretending to be his Ahab, when in fact he was some kind of backup plan, a second killer if you will, because nothing would make more sense than Leslie having a failsafe. I was kinda bummed when they didn't go this route.

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