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12 shooting the general

posted 8 years ago by Whovian_DW
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I know that's a controversial scene to some people. They say oh the doctor would never shoot anyone. Firstly the doctor has fired guns at people on multiple occasions. 3 shot a bunch of the creatures from day of the daleks, 5 fired a whole round of bullets into a Dalek creature and there's probably more but I can't remember. 2 he wasn't the doctor during that episode Moffat said the villain in that episode was the doctor he was the bad guy during it which I think we a great idea,

Last I quite liked the idea of it. I personally wouldn't mind seeing the doctor shoot more, I mean not turn him into James Bond or anything and sometimes he does his merciful trying to save everyone thing but I think it's good to make it unpredictable what he'll do. I think in new who the doctor with guns has become to predictable. I mean everyone knows tennant wouldn't fire a gun at anyone he hit a hissy fit when anyone said the word gun the scene I the doctors daughter where he had the gun at the guys head and it was meant to be suspenseful of whether he'd do it made me laugh first time watching becuse it was obvious he wouldn't same with end of time.

Matt was a bit more unpredictable e.g him killing Solomon the way he did but when he had the gun in town called mercy we still pretty much knew he wouldn't but with capaldi doing that it does finally show he will do it with no problem and I like that because it'll make his enemies fear him more and not just go oh he's got a gun well he won't use it. Even the General said it hasn't got a stun setting and thought that would stop him but it didnt. So I'd be happy to see that more in new who.

[–] CashIsSupreme 8 years ago

It's controversial because he robbed the general of whatever time he might have had left with that body. It's not murder but he still shortened the general's total lifetime by an unknown number of years.

[–] sanddragon939 8 years ago

Well, the Time Lords did rob him of an "unknown number of years" by forcing Two to regenerate into Three, so...

Formerly sn939

[–] Whovian_DW 8 years ago

And 4 and a half billion years in the confession dial and caused clara to die so you can't blame him for not being to happy with them all. Anyway I always saw the general as a 2 faced guy anyway. He hated the doctor in day of the doctor then suddenly in hell bent he liked him but just stood there and let rassilon order his execution then when the doctor won he went on his side, then went after the doctor again

[–] persia-4 8 years ago

A simulated 4.5 billion years and we are not really sure exactly what he remembers of it.

[–] Whovian_DW 8 years ago

It wasn't simulated because he would've died there if he hadnt worked it out. If he hadnt gotten to the teleport in time he'd have died right there

[–] lantzn 8 years ago

Yes he's a flip flopper.

[–] bh_tafe3 8 years ago

In Day of the Doctor he doesn't like the Doctor because he has become a lone wolf loon who can't be ordered or reasoned with and then caps it off by stealing a WMD with the intention of using it to destroy Gallifrey. I can see the General's point.

[–] bookskds 8 years ago

The idea of the Doctor isn't that he's a pacifist (despite the 10th Doctor).
It's that he uses his mind instead of weapons - out thinks the enemies and controls the situation.

But he is hardly a pacifist. Plenty of evidence against that.

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