Gross and disgusting

I'm an agnost myself, but I was talking from the Christian point of view. Whenever a Christian condemns you or judges you because you do something that is supposedly against God's will, just say: "What could oppose God's will? Nothing really, right? We're all God's holy and perfect children, and he loves us no matter what we say and do."

Terror -

Whether or not Carson liked a certain telling of this joke has nothing to do with wether or not he would have liked this monumental failure of filmmaking. The observation that Carson would not have liked this film was based on his behavior while he was alive. He did not like classless shlock. This movie appeals to retarded juvenile delinquents, THAT is my point. Carson most certainly would not have fit into that category.

Your logic proves my point; you are saying anyone that watched this film and didn't think it was funny or was offended by it should not have watched it. Talk about being psychic.

Then you say that if it took the movie to make you realize "these two things" (that it wasn't funny and was offensive), then you shouldn't bother "whining in a message board". Not only are you indicting your own pov here, but you presume imdb message boards are only for favorable comments. In other words, if it took watching a horrible movie to make me realize that it was horrible, I should not have said anything about it publicly. Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense. I lose.

The only thing you got right is that nobody cares.





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by - terror_and_submission on Mon Jan 19 2009 07:32:09
"Carson would not have liked this film." Thanks for the update from the psychic medium who communicates with dead celebrities. If you don't think the joke is funny or you're offended by crude humor, don't watch the movie. If it took watching the movie to make you realize these two things, then don't bother whining in a message board. Nobody cares.

If you're serious, you lose

Just can't stay away, can ya, RT? Like a fly to....

But never mind. You requested some verification; Here you go. I myself have known of Carson's love for this joke since the 80's. But knowing you, you'll just proclain that everybody that disagrees with you are just a bunch of a Big Doodyheads and then you'll return to your cave with the rest of the Comedy Taliban.



"Paul Provenza on Johnny Carson's Take on the Joke: "Johnny Carson loved this joke. In fact, that’s one of the reason why the film is dedicated to him. He absolutely loved this joke and he had been in contact with Penn shortly before he died, because he was a big fan of their Showtime show *beep* So they struck up a correspondence and Johnny was completely taken with the whole idea of the movie. In fact, Penn was supposed to show it to him when we got back from Sundance, but Johnny passed away during Sundance so there was a sadness on our parts. But Johnny loved this joke and there are a number of tales of him enjoying the joke or telling the joke or what have you.

He loved the joke. In fact, when I was a kid, we’re talking probably late ‘60s, early ‘70s, something like that, I was watching ‘The Tonight Show’ and Buddy Hackett was on. Buddy Hackett was always an event when he was on the ‘Tonight Show’ because he just got under Johnny’s skin and tickled him like nobody’s business. Buddy Hackett was the filthiest mouth in comedy prior to Bob Saget. They cut away for a commercial break and normally during a commercial break, the band would play and entertain the audience. Well, they came back and for five minutes Johnny was trying to get composure, the audience was dying, Ed McMahon was doing that characteristic guffaw of his, the band was just falling all over each other, and the viewer had no idea what was going on.

Many years later, when I was making my ‘Tonight Show’ debut, I asked one of the segment producers, ‘You know, when I was a kid I saw Buddy Hackett on the show and something happened and Johnny lost it, the crowd went nuts. What went on?” And they knew right away what I was talking about and they told me that just during the commercial break, Buddy Hackett said, ‘Hey, I got a joke for the people,’ and he started to tell this joke. And just as they were coming back from the commercial break and the AD was going 5, 4, 3… he hit the punch line so when the cameras came on, everybody was gone. So Johnny has a rich history with this joke and loved it. Loved hearing other people tell it and it was sad that he never got to see the movie.”

Let's see, this from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

"Park City, Utah - Did Johnny Carson know the dirtiest joke in the world?

"It was his favorite joke," said comedian, magician and filmmaker Penn Jillette, who made a film about the joke with comedian Paul Provenza.

The punch line of the joke is the title of their film "The Aristocrats," which had its premiere last week at the Sundance Film Festival. The film features more than 100 comedians telling their variation of the joke, which is rarely told in public and whose content varies depending on who is telling it.

Carson does not appear in "The Aristocrats," but Jillette had been exchanging e-mails with him about the film, "and I was going out to his house to show it. That was going to be the finish of the film for me."

Although the joke was Carson's favorite, "he would not tell it to us on camera because he made a very strong promise to himself that he would not appear in public after he retired," said Jillette.

The one time Jillette - the long-haired, husky, speaking half of the magic comedy team Penn and Teller - appeared on "The Tonight Show," Jay Leno was guest host. But Provenza remembers his first appearance, on June 25, 1983, as if it was yesterday, and is happy to report that he killed.

"I remember it like a birthday because my life changed the next morning," said Provenza. "It was really remarkable. He ended up on the floor banging his fist he had such a good time. If you watch that old tape . . . you see me looking over to the side going, 'Oh, my God.' I didn't know if the audience was laughing more at him or at me."

For a young comedian, such an experience was "like winning an Oscar. If Johnny Carson thinks you're funny, Johnny Carson wants you on the show, Johnny Carson is laughing out loud in front of a studio audience, that's an Oscar."



So, that means that one of the "respectable" proxies you've chosen to "Prove Your Point" (A favorite phrase of yours, I believe) has the NERVE to show you up as no better than a Karl Rovian Republican re-election operative, as nothing more than a lying sack of *beep* that puts his own self-serving words in the mouths of dead people in order to show how undeniably right you are about everything. A New Low, even for you.....

Well, cross Johnny off your list....which Dead Funny Person are you gonna swear agrees with you next? Are you going to claim that Bob Hope said you're a genius? Announce that Sam Kinison was going to abandon his heathen ways and views after your sage counsel, but he died before he could publicly announce your brilliance? Maybe you'll suggest that Richard Pryor credited you with getting him off drugs?.

You really are Scum, RT - ya know that? You are FAR more pathetic than the worst version of "The Aristocrats" that anybody's ever told...



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