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Some flaws that bothered me...


... next to the already mentioned flaws on this board (maybe I just didn´t read those):

1. If Cadillac can really only see his own future for the next two minutes (because he´s living it!) why would he know what happens to others.
For example:
After Moore releases him she walks along the office and talks to the other agent.
Cadillac couldn´t see that because that never happened to him.
Same with Biel as the hostage with the terrorists before they leave for the garage roof.
2. When he is watching Biel and the terrorists on the roof: He couldn´t have stayed at this position because when he is looking into the future he IS actually a part of the future. So should´ve seen him but they didn´t.
3. How did he know what Moore said right before he ran down the canyon ("Don´t do it!" - "I already did")?

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1. I'm not sure which part you're referring to.

2. He said that he can see further with Biel, and since her death affects him he is able to see it.

3. In the casino scene, Moore discovers that once you make a decision that affects him, he can already see it which is how he could tell what they were saying about him over the camera. Same rule applies at the canyon.

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No offense but it seems you haven´t understood what I was referring to.
All of that has to do with Cadillac HAVING to be a part of the future! That´s what he says in the beginning.

1. You might have to watch it again to see what I´m talking about.
Moore releases him after she forced him to watch TV and leaves. Since she is not a part of HIS future in this moment (she goes away and talks to some guy while passing an open office) it never happened to him. So actually they couldn´t have showed that in the movie.
2. This is where you mainly haven´t understood me. I´m not talking about the lenght of the precognition AT ALL. It´s like before (only the other way around): He definitely IS a part of the future. Even though it hasn´t happen yet he (and everything around him within the precognition) lives it like he was a part of it. So he can´t be next to the van (or her) without the bad guys (and her) noticing him.
3. Kind of makes sense but if that really is the case why couldn´t he see in Vegas (in the opening scene) they were talking about him?

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you make no sense. the entire movie itself is not one big prediction so you have nothing to be bothered about and it wasn't a flaw

its not like he was seeing that we were but he wasn't

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the entire movie itself is not one big prediction

actually everything that happens from the night he and Biel sleep together onward IS one big prediction up until he wakes up that same morning again at the end of the film.


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1. We're seeing a future. WE are seeing some things he's not - i.e. the conversations Moore has with other agents, etc. Unless I missed something, none of that ever becomes something he acts upon in the movie - if it did, that'd be a flaw. We can assume though that pretty much everything that happens to Biel's character he could see.

2. For all we know, he could remain hidden on the roof since he knows she blows up there, and basically see everything he sees. We see it as him standing there and seeing it, but in reality he's probably going to the roof in a future and seeing it from a different vantage point while being hidden. I could see how that could be confusing to viewers though - we assume we're seeing exactly what he's DOING in the future.

3. Moore being an FBI agent that's probably had to deal with a lot of fleeing suspects, she probably understands what his likely option is if he's going to run at that point. He says "I already did" because he simply had already done it in futures he's seen (and of course we find out later he can pretty accurately see a looong time into the future when with Biel, so he may have seen how that whole attempted escape was going to play out, and merely had it play out to save Moore's life so he could be seen as more benevolent than just an *beep* that can see into the future and not be treated like a pure criminal.

Rule of thumb once we see the ending of the film is that everything from the time he wakes up in bed with Biel until the bomb goes off is exactly what he wanted to happen (including him "almost" drinking the drugged drink). The bomb going off was the only "mistake" he made in THAT future, but of course we know he can see potentially an infinite amount of futures.

Thus when talking to Moore at the end (the only ACTUAL time he talks to Moore throughout the whole movie - that phone call and talk in person with her), we can assume he knows where the bomb is, how to go about disabling it and how to kill or apprehend all the terrorists and all he basically needs to do is direct the whole thing like we saw him direct saving Biel in the future we saw.

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