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Right wingers most disliked movie?


Critically important lesbians.
Strongman bad guys.
Bill O’Reilly stand in as the main propaganda figure
Persecuted gay leftie good guy who likes Korans.
The guys with the guns are persistently made look foolish and weak.
Not-quite-an-Anarchy-symbol, colours and ideals.
The police shooting triggering civil unrest.


Or is there another movie right wingers hate more?

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I think most right-wingers I know like or love the movie. They might get a bit uncomfy at the implications, or they might roll their eyes a couple of times, but it's a well-made movie, and it's message is largely anti-authoritarian, which most people are actually on board with (at least, on paper). It doesn't hit as hard as the graphic novel, so the discomfort is minimal.

For example, a viewer might be right-wing and support policies unfavourable towards the targeted groups in the film, but they rarely view themselves as fascist. Another viewer might be left-wing and an advocate of cancel culture, but that person would be unlikely to think of themselves as fascist either. Both will enjoy V for Vendetta, thinking it isn't criticizing them at all.

As to movies right-wingers hate more, they tend to be things where the ad campaign was left-wing. Examples include (Lady) Ghostbusters and Captain Marvel. Those films' ad campaigns made it clear they were progressive-minded films, and that irked right-wingers and made them hate the movies before they saw them.

In short, V is too "basic principals" to be argued with. Nobody wants an extremist government suppressing, silencing, and slaughtering its citizenry. Far more likely to upset politically-minded viewers would be more obvious attacks on their ideological comfort zones.

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Wow, you CLEARLY didn't get it. The people in V are living in a world currently being created by leftists, not right wingers. It is current events perpetrated by the democrat party that make this movie look like a prophecy. From the deliberate control and manipulation to information to the gov't using an outbreak to gain control over the population.

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The fascist party uses a false flag attack to take over the government. Kind of like the Reichstag fire.

And every single conservative unanimously voted for Hitler's Enabling Act.

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Like democrats and COVID.

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Don't worry, the Nazis were anti-vaxxers as well:

What could explain the restraint in this important field of public health care? Why, in 1933, did the state give up its previous claims to power in the area of preventive care for the "people's body"? The ongoing debate about the Lübeck vaccination scandal offers a first explanation for the concerns of the time. A second is rooted in Nazi ideology itself, since vaccination posed serious problems from a "racial hygiene" point of view. After all, immunization against diseases strongly contradicts the idea of hardening and selection.


Here's a little anti-vaxx Nazi rhyme you fascists can adopt:

"Deutsches Volk, hab‘ nichts mit dem Impfen gemein,
Es ist jeder wahren Gesundheitspflege Hohn,
Und willst Du nicht selbst Dein Totengräber sein,
Dann bekenn‘ Dich entschlossen zur Anti-Vakzi-Nation!"

"German people, have nothing in common with vaccination,
It is a mockery of all true health care,
And if you don't want to be your own gravedigger,
Then decisively profess your allegiance to the Anti-Vakzi Nation!"

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Not really. I don't hate this movie but it made me feel sad after watching it.

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Generally, the right thinks the left are using these movies as a set of instruction sets of how to govern. What is to hate?

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Meanwhile, the right in the US is taking a page out of the Nazi Germany's book and banning abortion and birth control centers in the 21st cenntury.

The Nazis' rigorous enforcement of section 218 followed logically from the high regard they had for motherhood. In the first five years of the regime, convictions under section 218 increased by 50%, while birth control centers were shut down and access to contraception was curtailed. During World War II, the Nazis called for the death penalty for repeat offenders against section 218. While the Nazis imposed a very strict anti-abortion scheme for healthy 'Aryans,' they allowed and encouraged abortion if either of the parents was believed to carry hereditary defects. The Nazis further undermined family planning by strictly enforcing existing prohibitions on the display and advertising of contraception. On May 26, 1933, the Nazis re-introduced the prohibitions on publicity or education regarding abortion or abortifacients that had been abolished during the Weimar Republic. Doctors were understandably anxious about referring patients for therapeutic abortions in such circumstances, and the number of referrals declined from about 44,000 in 1932 to 4,131 in 1937."

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Yes, saving the lives of the unborn, such a fundamental fascist belief. Careful, your agenda is showing.

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Word for word Republican agenda:

Spengler's Prussian socialism was popular amongst the German political right, especially the revolutionary right who had distanced themselves from traditional conservatism. His notions of Prussian socialism influenced Nazism and the Conservative Revolutionary movement."

"Historian Ishay Landa has described the nature of 'Prussian socialism' as decidedly capitalist. For Landa, Spengler strongly opposed labor strikes, trade unions, progressive taxation or any imposition of taxes on the rich, any shortening of the working day, as well as any form of government insurance for sickness, old age, accidents, or unemployment. At the same time as he rejected any social democratic provisions, Spengler celebrated private property, competition, imperialism, capital accumulation, and 'wealth, collected in few hands and among the ruling classes'. Landa describes Spengler's 'Prussian Socialism' as 'working a whole lot, for the absolute minimum, but — and this is a vital aspect — being happy about it.'


Indeed:

"The domestic agenda was one of authoritarian conservatism, with a pronounced distaste for parliamentary politics, high taxes, welfare spending and trade unions.


Source: Adam Tooze, "The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy"

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Mussolini's not that far either:

Mussolini, a leading member of the Italian Socialist Party (Partito Socialista Italiano) before World War I, became a fierce antisocialist after the war. After coming to power, he banned all Marxist organizations and replaced their trade unions with government-controlled corporatist unions. Until he instituted a war economy in the mid-1930s, Mussolini allowed industrialists to run their companies with a minimum of government interference. Despite his former anticapitalist rhetoric, he cut taxes on business, permitted cartel growth, decreed wage reduction, and rescinded the eight-hour-workday law. Between 1928 and 1932 real wages in Italy dropped by almost half. Mussolini admitted that the standard of living had fallen but stated that “fortunately the Italian people were not accustomed to eating much and therefore feel the privation less acutely than others."

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I always saw it as being about the Extremes of Communism and Socialism. And the main character is fighting against that.

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Tell me you're a dumb American without telling me you're a dumb American. The graphic novel spells it out more clearly, it's a conflict between fascism and anarchism, which isn't even mentioned in the movie.

You quite clearly never watched this movie. Persecution of gay people and minorities for one...

Why are nearly 100% of Republican legislative candidates in the US white in a 60% white country? Because the Republican Party is a party of white supremacism.

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Tell me you're stupid without telling me you're stupid. Why would I know about America when I'm not American.

You made a fatal assumption to push your agenda.

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Because liberals have spent the last 160yrs manipulating minorities into voting for them by pretending to care about their rights.

You better look at Congress again. Your logic is also an utter failure.

Speaking as a conservative who's been voting for 30yrs, I have never voted based on race and I have voted for non-white candidates. I'm so tired of this "republicans are white supremacists" bullshit because that's all it is, bullshit perpetrated by the real party of hate.

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https://www.newyorker.com/news/george-packer/dividing-the-democrats

https://thenewyorker.typepad.com/online__georgepacker/files/dividing_the_democrats1.pdf

"ETHNIC/RELIGIOUS

[...]

4) Black Complaints: As we did with Muskie we should continue to champion the cause of the Blacks within the Democratic Party; elevate their complaints of 'being taken for granted.'"


You're a white supremacist, buddy. Republicans have spent the last 50 years spewing propaganda like yours.

I said all Republican legislative candidates, which means across all of the US, not just Congress. That means state legislatures as well. Learn to read.

Of those that self-identify as Republicans 95% are white in a 60% white country.

It's obvious Republicans think only white people should be in positions of power.

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Looks like we have a new liar in town.

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Prothero reminds me of Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson, who, by the by, had a speech writer for years who later publicly came out as a white supremacist.

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You are insane.

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It's well documented, fascist. Don't worry.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/12/890030168/fresh-scrutiny-for-foxs-tucker-carlson-as-top-writer-quits-over-bigoted-posts

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By what criteria am I a fascist???

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This movie is definitely 'loaded', if you will. Whether you're left or right, you have to be pretty stupid to think lockdowns, curfews, dictatorships, and out-right censorship are a good thing for the normal you and I.

Movies definitely are a medium for people to get their political ideologies across, which is of course a good or bad thing, depending on what you agree with (imo, try and keep your specific political ideologies away from movies, TV shows, video games, etc.), and because it's so 'loaded' in that sense, I won't go into the exact specifics of what I personally did/didn't agree with, but for the generalisation of the pandemic and human testing etc, I thought it was a great movie that was eerily accurate and relatable to what the world went through in 2020 and beyond.

I gave it a 7/10. I would have given it a 9 but somehow even in 2005 they managed to make it a little woker than I like, which is a shame, but a solid 7 for the rest of the movie. Great performance from Hugo Weaving as well, I really liked him in the Matrix movies also.

Edit: Funnily enough, when I was younger, I didn't rate the movie too highly as I guess I was too young to understand what it was really about (and V's lines in the beginning of the movie didn't make sense and I maybe remembered the movie just for those somewhat confusing lines at the start more-so than anything else), but the fact it got the whole COVID stuff bang-on 15 years before it happened is pretty incredible.

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