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So is Baby Lyssa a child or is she a bounty hunter?

posted 15 years ago by jtack
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I just watched the episode "The Smackdown of Baby Lyssa" in which the bounty throws Baby Lyssa to the ground and makes a run for it.

The rest of the crew eventually catches him, and they say they'll charge him with assault, and then call him scum for beating up on children (Baby Lyssa).

Well, if he's scum for beating up on a child, then Dog and family are scum for endangering a child by routinely placing his daughter in extremely dangerous situations. They can't have it both ways. Naturally they're blind to their hypocrisy.

I'm not American so don't really understand this aspect of the law: AFAIK Baby Lyssa isn't legally recognized as a bounty hunter and (therefore) doesn't have a badge to present. What authority does she have to grab hold of someone and tell them not to move? If a random person did that to you and you shoved them to the ground (after making sensible efforts to squirm/pull free) and then ran away, could that seriously be considered assault?

[–] sweenms 15 years ago

Well first of all, she is not a child. She was 21 years old at the time, so legally she is an adult. When they said she was a child they meant she is their child, as in their daughter. Dog and the family are not "scum" as you put it for putting her in "dangerous situations" because she is an adult. She can make her own decisions and the life of a bounty hunter is the life that she has chosen. If she wants to put her life on the line to help put criminals away then she has every right to do so because she is an adult and therefore can make her own decisions.

Second, she is a bounty hunter and she has a badge. If you saw the edpisode when she had her first take-down, you would know that she has a badge. Dog presented her with that badge in that episode. She has just as much authority to arrest a fugitive as the rest of the Chapmans.

Thirdly, being as she had the authority to arrest the guy what he did to her WAS assault. He didn't try to get away from her because he didn't think she had the authority to arrest him. He tried to get away from her because he didn't want to go back to jail. I'm sure her "authority" never crossed his mind.

So before you start running your mouth about Baby Lyssa get your facts straight.

[–] jtack 15 years ago

When they said she was a child they meant she is their child, as in their daughter.

No, that very clearly was not the context of their reproach, and your defense of their reaction fails as a result. He said it was "assault on little girls," and beating on children. The wording was not to reflect that Lyssa was his daughter, but rather that Lyssa was basically fragile and incapable of defending herself (which is self-evidently true).

I still call this hypocrisy.

As for your second/third points, very well. If she is legally recognized and has the authority to detain, then fine.

[–] worldofbong 15 years ago

No, that very clearly was not the context of their reproach, and your defense of their reaction fails as a result. He said it was "assault on little girls," and beating on children. The wording was not to reflect that Lyssa was his daughter, but rather that Lyssa was basically fragile and incapable of defending herself (which is self-evidently true).

You're taking it far too seriously.. many people will still call a girl in her early 20's a "little girl", etc.. especially when it's their daughter!

This has nothing to do with child endangerment laws but rather assault on a human being, which is indeed illegal in the United States.

but then again, i'm not so sure, lol - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSVP9LuRhU

[–] bnally62191 13 years ago

Im sure Dog was talking about her size compared to his

[–] mikerush76-871-136079 13 years ago

Please never have children if you cant understand why he said that about his little(in his mind) girl, besided he could have been including the other things the guy has done.

[–] jtack 13 years ago

Sure, because putting your children in danger by involving them in a bounty hunt is such great parenting.

I really don't think you fully read or understood my post, or did not see the episode I'm referring to because the context is very clear.

[–] Sarah_Worthing 12 years ago

she probably wasnt recognised at the time but she was in training and, i think, recognised as a bounty hunter now

[–] echobunny9203 13 years ago

She has the paperwork to revoke the guys bail. She is not a peace officer, therefore she does not have the ability to arrest him. There is a difference. If he did assault her then she would have to call an actual law enforcement officer with a REAL badge to make an arrest. How do I know this? I hold a POST 832 along with an actual badge that I didn't buy in a store. Of course I'm not allowed to cuff people in the front, offer them cigarettes, pray with them, ect.

[–] samup7775 10 years ago

She was knocked up at 12 or something? Yup she's a kid alright.

[–] Big_Bad_Wolf3456 15 years ago

She's legally an adult, but I think they still see her as a kid one of those 'parent' things. But they do that all the time. They find out that one of the bounties is like a wife beater and they call them scum and stuff and then they meat him 'oh he's a nice dude' whatever whatever.

[–] alace2 15 years ago

I think it's mostly just a parent thing. For instance, I'm legally an adult, but my dad still calls me his little girl and still calls me by all the nicknames he gave me when I was a kid. He still thinks of me as a child, and I always will be a kid in his eyes, to some degree.

[–] deltonaman101 13 years ago

This is what the original poster does not understand, legally you are an adult but in the eyes or your father you are his child regardless of your age. This is what the chapmans were saying also in the episode he was referring to. He just heard "child" and thinks lyssa is a child. Also probably when he hears them calling her baby lyssa also makes him believe she is younger than what she really is

[–] thedean123 15 years ago

I won't get into the context of how the word "child" was used but the whole scene was pretty sad. If you replay it the guy wiggled away from her and she fell lol, then at the end when she was trying to play all tough and say "you know i got couple dislocated ribs but its all part of the job" or something like that just made her sound like a total idiot. Sorry if she had dislocated ribs she wouldn't have been walking around and if that little stumble seriously injured her she should probably not be bounty hunting and should be tested for osteoporosis or something like that lol.

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[–] bsb205 14 years ago

She is an adult. she is either in her 20's or 30's

[–] bsb205 14 years ago

She is an adult. she is either in her 20's or 30's

[–] blackarachnia2 13 years ago

Lyssa's not that old. Leland and Dwayne Lee are that old.

"Tombstones don't talk back."
--Leland Blaine Chapman 07/07/04

[–] Judge33 13 years ago

I tend to agree. Lyssa grabbed the guy by his arm, and he squirmed out and pushed her to the ground in a relatively non-violent manner. It wasn't exactly like he punched her in the face. He tried to get out of her grasp in a way that would cause little or no harm. If he did the same thing to Leland, I seriously doubt anybody would consider it assault.

You can't have it both ways. You can't say women should be treated equally, but then hold them to a much different standard than you would a man. If pushing Leland to the ground wouldn't be considered assault, why should pushing Lyssa to the ground be considering assault.

[–] blackarachnia2 13 years ago

Non-violent? Excuse me? Lyssa was perfectly within her right to restrain the guy until her dad and the others got there. The guy threw her to the ground and ran for it. You don't think that it was violent to push her to the ground while she was trying to do her job?

As long as she's got that bounty hunter's badge she can arrest/restrain whoever her dad happens to be hunting.

"Tombstones don't talk back."
--Leland Blaine Chapman 07/07/04

[–] johnf_sf 11 years ago

honestly...with that overbite...a punch to the mouth probably would be a good thing!

[–] Sarah_Worthing 12 years ago

she's in her 20s and has a kid herself, and she's called "baby" lyssa as she shares same name as her mother

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