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Did you notice violent people was more 'occidental'

posted 18 years ago by diseoconceptual
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The family who fights after the trip, and the child who shot his mother, they have a "Jesus" poster on one bedroom.

The couple of the "boxing" lover.

The husband loves "Golf", and "Greeks" sculptures

The old man laying dead, his sons doesn't visit him constantly, "no respect for the ancient".

The photographer, loves "golf" and he makes "artistics naked" pictures.

The cop was "corrupt".

The only couple that respect each other, and they have no seen problems, were those that lives in a "traditional" neighborhood with "traditional" customs, and it's was the only place the both of them came back to rest.

[–] mstoneic 18 years ago

I think that's a valid observation.

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[–] angry127 18 years ago

Yes, but the couple allowed the woman to sleep on their couch.

[–] jadegecko 18 years ago

Interesting. I don't know Korean culture, but I'd assumed that the 'occidental' manner of many of the characters was simply a result of encroaching western culture as a whole. It wasn't that they made an effort to join or follow western culture, but that western culture has instead come to Korea, and it's simply integrated itself with the average person's lifestyle.

[–] worst_trip 17 years ago

I came on this board having only caught about the last 25 minutes of this (intriguing) film by accident (I was desperate to know what the ending meant)! Can't comment on the 'violence' aspect because of the small amount I saw, but even from that it did seem clear that some comparisons were deliberately being made between the traditional Korean householders, and those more 'Westernized' golf-playing, apartment-dwelling folk.

Right. Off now to see if I can find a large stoneware tub large enough to keep carp and grow ornamental waterlillies in.

[–] mervei 16 years ago

I definitely agree with you. Great observation!
Traditional couple was very peaceful, whereas others were quite violent and angry. I also believe that such an oriental - Arabic - choice of music (Natacha Atlas's Gafsa)is also in accordance with the way that the director atributes positive meanings to traditions and east.

[–] Thomas_Neville_Servo 16 years ago

I noticed that too. It's fair to say that Kim Ki-duk resents, to an extent, the encroachment of Western culture on Korean traditional society. I can't say I blame him.

[–] asheldy2 16 years ago

i wont totally disagree but i think that some of those are a bit of a stretch

[–] passyingby 15 years ago

I guess I'm the only one who opposes to this idea. I am Korean who speaks fluent korean. I have not noticed such impressions over any of Kim Ki duk's films-including bin jip or from his interviews. So, I simply do not think that was his intensions and actually, I think you guys are trying too hard to interpret his films. Just my 2 cents.

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[–] gapinghole 14 years ago

Reading too much into it?

The traditional place was sort of random so it had to be in there for some reason. ALL the owners of the modern places had some problems.

It is a clear pattern, anyone can see that.

[–] antoni109 12 years ago

Interesting theory...

The "Jesus" poster though, I think around 70% of South Koreans are nominally Christian - although it's a traditionally Buddhist society. Doesn't invalidate your theory though.