the soundtrack...


Why? Just why?

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The soundtrack is one of my favorite things about this movie and one of the main reasons I've watched it multiple times.

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I agree! The soundtrack was fantastic! I thought it worked with the film brilliantly!

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I also love the soundtrack. I disagree that Dunst's performance was poor. I liked everyone in this film, actually. While those of you who hate the music are entitled to your opinion, I feel the combination of classical and modern music highlighted the fact that Antoinette's character is laid back while Louis' character is traditional. I also felt the modern music did a particularly wonderful job of accenting the changes Antoinette goes through in the film.

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Same here, regarding the soundtrack. It was a stroke of genius not to give us another "Amadeus" (much as I adore that film), but a view of teen life and alienation in a highly materialistic world, the only solution to which seemed to be: PAR-TAY! Some of the best New Wave songs of the 80's just MADE this film something completely unique. I mean, does anyone else get sick of the anemic, recycled theme from "Downton Abbey" (which , by the way, is not "Period" either!)? Instead of three moping, anemic rich girls, we get the lushness and raucous party atmosphere that made the Queen infamous. And with much better costumes than the 80's!

In between New Order and the Cure's splendid "Plainsong" at the coronation, we get the lilting mandolin and guitar solos of Marie's more intimate Petit Trianon, with her lazing around amongst friends and lovers.

I wouldn't change ONE thing about the music except for Bow Wow Wow's freakish rendition of one of my fave tunes by Johnny Mercer, "Fools Rush In"...but even that fit somehow (I like to think Marie was just hungover and still thinking about Count Versen during that bit).

At least she didn't mix 80's shlock-pop with a serious attempt to recreate an era, as they did with "Dirty Dancing"!


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Agreed on the genius soundtrack. But who is better than her in that department anyway? I mean, there are other directors who are exceptional regarding soundtracks of their respective films (Wes Anderson, Tarantino, Scorsese...) but it's difficult to be better than her in that regard.

I wouldn't change ONE thing about the music except for Bow Wow Wow's freakish rendition of one of my fave tunes by Johnny Mercer, "Fools Rush In"...but even that fit somehow (I like to think Marie was just hungover and still thinking about Count Versen during that bit).


I don't know, I liked that version. It resonated very well to this situation where her heart must be beating very fast (she's falling in love) where she is so excited after meeting that guy at a party and constantly thinking about him on the way home. I also guess she was more cheerful than hungover. It was probably one of those nights where you cannot sleep because of constantly thinking about that person you just met at a party (I mean while everybody is sleeping in the carriage/couch she is constantly in motion and leaning against the window and holding her hand outside against the wind)... The song echoes that situation/scene so good.

Every song is perfectly chosen but I also especially liked the "I-don't-Like-it-Like-This" music choice or when Squarepusher is played after the party scene where she is newly waking up while the servants are cleaning the room or when you hear Aphex Twin when she enters Versailles or the "I-want-Candy" bit.

To my mind, the "weakest" choice of music (if you can say so) was the Strokes song.

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Interesting takes on some of the other excellent music in this film. And I'd have to agree that, despite some similar directors who use this technique, Sofia is the one who does it best. With Scorcese, for instance, I often like the songs he chooses (but too often recycling the same ones) and where he chooses to put them in a scene. It's pretty hit-or-miss as to how well it works.

Tarantino seems to put more thought in it and to mesh the music with the scene more appropriately. I loved his use of Rodriguez' de facto theme song from his Mariachi trilogy, Malaguena Salerosa, during the closing scene with Beatrix driving off in "Kill Bill, Vol.2". Perfection!

As for your take on "Fools Rush In", I agree with this part:

It was probably one of those nights where you cannot sleep because of constantly thinking about that person you just met at a party (I mean while everybody is sleeping in the carriage/couch she is constantly in motion and leaning against the window and holding her hand outside against the wind)... The song echoes that situation/scene so good.


It really does, and just before reading this, I had been watching "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil." When John Cusack first arrives at the Christmas Party, the pianist, who knows that his mother's favorite Mercer song was "Fools Rush In", plays it, but in a very unique way, a sort of 1940's style "minuet". Then I realized that since Mercer was just the lyricist; then the actual melody could be anything that the musician desires!

Perhaps I simply had a problem (a common one for me) with Annabella Lwin's frequent flat notes as she hit the tougher parts. Their version of the melody really needed an operatic singer, I think. In my opinion, the only people who can pull off singing off-key are many of Motown's "girl groups", because it's intentional and many Bluegrass and Cajun singers. In those cases, I think it's the rustic quality of it and...well, that's the only explanation I have!

Back to the film, I was hypnotized by "Avril 14" (today!) and the sound of the pianoforte. You could actually hear the clacking of the keys hitting the catgut strings.

As for the other songs you mentioned, I don't have the soundtrack (just ordered it, though), so I'll head over to YouTube or watch the DVD to check them out and then reply.


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"It was a stroke of genius not to give us another Amadeus..."

LMAO!!! I wonder how that would have worked? To see a film about the life and music of Mozart, without the music of...Mozart!

I loved the soundtrack in this. But that's probably ONLY because this is my kind of music. My era. New Order, Siouxsie, Cure, Bow Wow Wow...if Sofia had made this film and added, say a Bee Gees, Nirvana, Deicide, or Kanye inspired sound track, I'd be throwing up in my mouth a little bit...ok, a lot!


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Right, I enjoyed it at least in part because I was an '80s postpunk guy myself. Which is one thing I find funny about people complaining that the soundtrack is "contemporary". Well, actually, most if not all of it was released at least twenty years before the film was.

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So much potential...and it had to have a contemporary soundtrack? It killed any artistic credibility. All of the anachronistic inconsistencies could be overlooked, but it is hard to ignore such an aggressive music score.

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I agree with you 100% so much potential totally wasted. WHY WHY WHY, except Kirsten was god awful too!

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Craig... are you actually judging art??

"It killed any artistic credibility"

Who'se to say you are right about wat makes art?



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Good point:

Craig... are you actually judging art??

"It killed any artistic credibility"

Who'se to say you are right about wat makes art?


Sounds to me like more of a comment about Sofia's choice of music itself...that it did not match Craig's taste, rather than how it went with the film. Too many people are so rigid about being "correct" in adhering to period detail. Sofia did ask her father about how to handle the film overall, whom she should consult and ultimately, what she should do with it, given her own ideas. Francis (a pretty good source for film advice!) told her , "Just do what you want; that's the most important thing."

I think we who liked her final decision have just as much right to that as people who disliked it have to do so, though maybe not pound it into the ground!


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I think the soundtrack is wonderful...I bought it straight away.

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The contemporary songs to this soundtrack do not hold a candle to classical music. I am watching this as I type, and for the life of me, I can't take this movie seriously. Music is supposed to enhance a movie, and this soundtrack is just not doing it for me. In fact, it's annoying.

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It's the main reason I'm interested in watching this, a period piece without the boring ass "classical" music, this movie looks really different, and rad I must say. Just cause a movie is set in the olden days doesn't mean it has to be bored down with stiff music, and tone.


It didn't even need a "classical" score to work; even a modern, minimal score (like in Terrence Malick's "The New World") would have worked. The best, most effective parts of this film were the introspective, scoreless scenes. The modern, pop-punk score was intrusive. Coppola wanted to convey the message that Marie was just an average teenager, but did she have to beat us over the head with that score? And dont get me started on the lavender "Chuck Taylors" in Marie's show collection!

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Same as me! When I watched the tallier of this movie, I thought the soundtrack is kind of interesting. And I think it's a good idea for not using classical music all the time.

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Although I don't regard most classical music as boring (look at the film "Amadeus", which the music augmented a great story so well), I agree that in this case, it would have slowed down an already slow movie. One of "Marie Antoinette"'s best features was its 80's-based soundtrack. It was a hoot, watching people dance around at masked balls to stuff like Joy Division. Even some of the classical mandolin pieces were re-worked around modern groups.

Coppola's main problem was casting someone as modern as Dunst and Schwartzmann; they ended up seeming comical or maudlin and unsympathetic. However, Rose Byrne as Marie's best friend, The Duchess de Polignac, was a trip, as was Judy Davis as the fussy Comptesse de Noailles.

At any rate, we get an idea of how important music was to people then, including young people. We also see that they, like most youth, had their "own" tastes. Playing Mozart (a fave of Marie's, though--Emperor Josef, Danny Huston--was Mozart's primary patron in Vienna!) wouldn't have worked for their upbeat parties and Coppola wisely selected stuff that she liked (she's a big 80's buff). This was her dad, Francis' advice: make it the way YOU want. And she did! This is just the kind of take on an old, old story, to make you think about poor Antoinette in a different way. History 101 it ain't!



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"Coppola wisely selected stuff that she liked (she's a big 80's buff)"

I think this is one of the points that the soundtrack haters seem to miss, possibly because they are unfamiliar with the source material: among other things, Marie Antoinette is a homage to Sofia Coppola's favorite musicians and in particular Adam Ant. Why choose the 18th century to pay a tribute to an 80's pop singer? Because Adam Ant's trademark look drew heavily on that period. Sure, it was a naive, inaccurate, bastardized take on 18th century imagery, but it was what made him instantly recognizable and original.
If you go on youtube and have a look at the official videos for his biggest hits "Stand and Deliver" and "Prince Charming", you'll see that they are basically short-feature versions of Coppola's film, predating it by some twenty years.


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The music is the main element of this movie, I think the musical concept was even there before the script, as Sofia Coppola stated in many interviews she had something about beeing a teenager and her own teenage background with the 80s romantics in mind, when she started the project. In fact, the entire movie would not make sense without the contemporary music as it is supposed to enhance the here-and-now-feeling the director wanted to achieve. It's not supposed to be a 'historical' biopic, hence the vibrant colors, the pink, the Converse. It all relates very strongly to how Marie Antoinette and her Entourage would act today, or better how it actually wasn't all so different back then from what we do and feel today. That is the thought the movie is trying to evoke. It's clearly no 'Elizabeth'.

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yeah I agree, it's one of the best soundtracks I've heard, really complimented the visuals well. It's safe to say Sofia has great taste in music!

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Marie Antoinette herself was no ordinary royal, so I think an out of the ordinary soundtrack fits perfectly. I'm sure Marie would agree.

Get over what you're used to, just because every other period piece uses period, classical music doesn't mean that every period piece should follow in their footsteps, how dreadfully boring that would be.

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Personally I think the modern pop-punk was very symbolic of MA's lifestyle. She lived like a rock star and made sure she was going to have fun in her own way. It made her "cause" relate-able to modern, ignorant (to historical data)movie viewers. Take the scene where they're doing coke in her bedroom while rocking out and gambling. I think the score was spot on.

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This is the only movie where the sound track has appeared to be so mismatched that it drew attention to itself. It just doesn't feel right to me. Especially in the party scenes, one in particular where it appeared as if they were listening to modern music at their party.

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The party scenes wouldn't feel the same if they gave us twinkly harpsicord music.
Try to remember; this isn't one of those jr. high history films they used to make us sit through.

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I actually really like the idea of the soundtrack. A 80s punk soundtrack against a late 1700s backdrop had the potential to be really cool. I'm one of those people who not only loves Baz Lurhmann's Romeo and Juliet, but loves the concept of making the "old" and "historic" modern in a literal way. So when I first saw the trailer for this I was excited. My sister and I even went to movie its opening weekend. The reason why the 80s soundtrack doesn't work like it should is the pacing was so goddamn slow! Or course that's really the movie's biggest problem over all, IMO. For example here's a clip from the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKlIHvOFTOk Marie is celebrating her birthday with a New Order song playing in the background. The song is not making this scene come to life in anyway, it's still badly paced. It's not even 3 minutes but it feels like five at the very least.

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I just saw this movie and I agree. I thought the soundtrack was ridiculous and distracting. It was almost comical and I couldn't take the film seriously. I'm willing to bet that most people that loved it were under 35 years old. Why ruin a beautifully costumed film with anachronistic music, and from the 1980's of all decades. The worst music of all time.

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I am over 35 and enjoyed the peppering of modern music with the traditional here.
The newer music is above par and welcomed.

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Yeah, maybe in Amadeus, Mozart plays Billy Joel or Elton John? I got it, how about Lady Gaga in Titanic? Come on now!

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