Geography


I was wondering where the UEB compound is supposed to be located. Dialog occasionally seems to indicate it's about two hours from Sandy, presumably to the south. Given the speed and frequency with which characters from one location appear in the other, it seems like it isn't even that far.

That would put it somewhere in the vicinity of Fillmore, I guess?

They seem to compress the size of Utah fairly substantially, so maybe it's supposed to be further south in some half-size fictional reality. At one point Bill mentions to someone (Ana, I think) that he's from southern Utah, she asks, "St. George?," and he says "Near there." That's consistent with the location of the actual FLDS compound. But St. George is way down in the corner of the state, at least 4 hours from Sandy, so the compound would seem to closer to Salt Lake City than St. George.

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I always got the impression that it was supposed to be close to the real flds compound as well. Don't think they ever really say how long it takes to get to the compound but figured it was only a couple hours away.

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Do you mean the east side of Utah? My impression (perhaps mistaken) is that there's not much of anything west of Salt Lake City. It could be east (like around the Uintas), except that the Bill does refer to the south - in the exchange I mentioned above, and a few other times. Also, I'm remembering a line by Nicki in Season 2, which suggests south: on hearing what Ben was up to with his girlfriend, she said something like, "At the compound, if a boy did that he'd be taken away and left at the side of I-15."

One specific mention of distance (or time, to be more accurate): when Joey is trying to get Barb to go to the compound with Wanda, he tells her it's "just two hours there and back." That could be understood as one hour each way or two, I suppose.

I understand the show was filmed entirely in California. They actually do a reasonably good job of creating a sense of locale by inserting exterior establishing shots, sans actors, of what looks like the real Utah from time to time: cars on the highway and things like that. They also CGI in some not entirely convincing mountains in the background of some of the exterior shots of Sandy. When Bill first encounters the Greens and gets taken to their warehouse hideout, there's an exterior shot that looks like Magna, which makes sense.

Also of note: it doesn't snow very often.

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It looks like Delta is about exactly the right distance from Sandy, and reasonable proximate to I-15, so maybe that's approximately the "real" location of the fictional Juniper Creek compound, to the extent there is such a thing. The filming location was, of course, nowhere near there, or even in the same state.

There are repeated long shots of Sandy that have wrong-looking mountains in the background - that's what I was referring to when I mentioned that they "CGI in some not entirely convincing mountains." I think they digitally added bigger mountains behind a shot of California. What's obviously fake is that there's a smaller ridge of foothills in front of the mountains - which, as you note, is not at all how the Wasatch come down in Sandy. There aren't any smaller mountains or any real foothills: the big mountains are just there. You can see the top of Snowbird from Sandy (and vice versa).

They do have short insert shots that are "real" - generally cars driving on a highway and the like. No extended shots with the actual actors in them, or the Henrickson's houses, or anything like that. These short establishing shots were really shot in Utah, unless (among other things) they recreated all the Interstate directional and exit signs on a highway in California and somehow let traffic drive by them in the middle of the day. This might be stock footage they got from somewhere, though I suspect they sent a crew (or hired a local crew) to spend a few days filming so they could pop the shots in as appropriate throughout the series.

Some of the backgrounds out the windows of office buildings (e.g. Bill's lawyer's) are Salt Lake City. That's an easy bit of not-very-special effect work.

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A few more examples of shots really of Utah: in the last episode of Season 2, an exterior shot of Bill's Chevrolet SUV driving in what's clearly downtown Salt Lake City; in the first episode of Season 3, a shot of the huge smokestack in Magna, from the highway. Season 3, Episode 2, tracking Bill's SUV from behind as it turns left from northbound State Street to westbound South Temple Street.

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Just to throw a little more muddy information into the mix:

In Season 3, Episode 2, Kathy Marquart mentions to Joey that she has a deposition coming up in the criminal case against Roman. When Joey says something about how much trouble it is to go all the way to the city, she says it's taking place in a hotel room in St. George. So: the compound is supposed to be much closer to St. George than it is to Salt Lake City.

Which, I think, means that the answer to the geography conundrum is that the series takes place in a fictional (and apparently smaller) version of Utah.

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It was interesting hearing everybody's take on the geography. I live in NW Florida and have no idea what Utah really looks like. I mean as far as being able to distinguish the mountains. I've seen very few mountains in my life so I would have no idea what one set looks like over the other. The few I've been to are really beautiful.

I got the impression that the compound was 2 hours away. I heard someone say it more than once. Although Barbara has said "2 hours there and back" so that's confusing. That would mean it was 1 hour away.

I had the same experience with the show Pensacola: Wings of Gold. I only saw a couple of episodes but there are no mountains in Pensacola! Also our beach isn't brown. We have the whitest sand in the U.S

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There are no close Reservations to Salt Lake that are closer than Wendover, NV. big Love totally messed up the Geography of Utah. you would think this show was written by a bunch of writers in California who have not been to Utah.

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