I´m sick of the glorifying of the american soldiers!

Hey TNORDSETH, your father must be your brother. Soldiers are warriors and warriors are glorified for going into battle. Now you said 50% of all troops that invaded Normandy were American?? That would make sense why we are so proud of our soldiers. The other 50% were made up of about 8 other countries....Making USA, a lone country, with more troops than every other country combined.
And isn't it typical that Europeans don't give us any credit for saving your asses. Yeah we weren't involved the first three years because we thought you would be able to get the job done. And after you failed, and put us in danger, we had to step in. As always USA steps in to cover your incompetent asses and we get no thanks in return. And of course as soon as USA gets involved we end the war swiftly. Wanna talk about losing soldiers??? We showed up 3 years later in your lousy war and we still lost 1 million soldiers.
One other point, USA is the greatest country in the world and everyone else is jsut second best. So you either join us, or go home a loser.

Hollywood is in America and they tell stories about Americans.
As its a large land it can afford to spend money to make movies as it will most of the time get a fair return.
They are a lazy bunch and proud who will not read a film with subtitles or go see any film without an American or American story.

They would say make your own movies.
But as most don't have a population of 350 million they would need Americans to buy a ticket and that will not happen.

Great Britain stood alone and sold the farm to pay for the war.
The United Kingdom has only now paid for winning the war.
G.B. won and lost an empire. Russia gained an empire. The USA became rich.

I belive around four or so Enigmas were in fact captured nothing like 15.
The film Enigma was in part true enough but a fictional story.
Yes the Russians murdered Polish officers and tried to blame the Germans. That is true.
Bletchley Park did exist. So that is true. And people would be tired and wishing to see if they could break the code by having our own convoys attacked. Its true. The first Enigma was captured by Poland who past it to the British.
I don't see Flag of our Fathers as being glory its about people who are ashamed that others think they are heroes. Men fight for their mates and never for the Country.

The allies fought agin Japan as well as Germany & Italy; Sent equipment to Russia, North Africa saw action in the middle east, it was a peoples war on all fronts. In the air on the sea on land and at home.
The United Kingdom did not receive help from the USA it paid for it in Blood: Sweat; Tears, Land and many milions of $$$$$$$$$$$. The British were poor but held their heads high.

It has been an interesting thread to read none the less.

Love film love cinema keep the suits at bay.

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You really respect the effort??? Do you really? You speak of how we Americans are history lacking, but I just think you are very naive and bitter towards the fact that your country was taken over so easily. I have several Norwegian friends and consider them a great people and the resistance they put up and continued throughtout the war was a great effort. But if you are trying to downplay the role the United States took in bringing victory for the allies then you are VERY WRONG.

The German advance was stopped for two reasons: One, they had advanced so quickly into Russia that their supplies could not keep pace and second because it was one of the worst winters of the century for Russia. The Russian equipment at that time wasn't even on par with what the Germans were fielding their T-34's were not in any substantial numbers and their leadership was a joke. The Americans supplied them along with Britain and the rest of the allied forces (including Norwegians) with not only equipment but the means to mass produce tanks, airplanes and infantry weapons. The Americans played a big part in helping put the Russians back on their feet.

Your idea that the US didn't fight in Europe for 3 years is incredibly silly, making it seem as if we just waited and built up for the invasion of Normandy, anyone who knows anything about ww2 knows that we attacked North Africa to secure the oil fields the germans needed, then to attack Sicily and Italy (we invaded salerno on Sept. 9th 1943- 3 years? Do the math) forcing the Germans to keep elite units such as the Herman Goehering division and many others tied up and off the russian front. Remember that during this time we were also fighting in the pacific pretty much single handedly.

You speak of the numbers of dead by each side...what is that supposed to mean? The Russians lost so many men because they were poorly trained and their leadership didn't give a damn how many men they lost due to the sheer numbers they had(I'm sure glad that my family members didn't have leaders like that!) In the final weeks of the war when the Russian army was on the outskirts of Berlin, their leaders still ordered suicide like charges.

I could continue this greatly needed history lesson, but I don't want to waste anymore time. My suggestion would be to read some history books and not be so bitter. Your people (the Norweigians) are great people and were great fighters don't disrespect their efforts they made or the efforts that my country made by speaking of how we portray the generation of Americans that SAVED EUROPE!

-AMERICAN

ok then we should have just stayed home, since apparently who died the most=who did the most good.

next time, you're on your own, douchebag.

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You speak some truth... If the Americans didn't come into the war, it is true we would have been screwed and we would all be working in a mine somewhere. Yes even the Red Army would have been crushed.

Young people are taught the war was only won through Normandy? Are you on crack?????? We're taught about all fronts on the war, even the Russian front (which is hard to believe cause i could have cared less) The effort in North Africa was to push the Axis back. We went in to Italy to take down Germany's closest ally. Once that that happened we were able to push up a third front in Europe. Operation Overlord 40% American 40% British 20% Canadian, and i heard about a polish army somewhere. Regardless those are roughly the masses. Erwin Rommel, The "Desert Fox" lead this assault. Hitler divisions out of the Eastern front furiously to hold the Western Front. That caused the great Soviet push into Berlin.

Now speaking about glorifying, a nation that isn't well known for its sacrifices of BOTH world wars is the Canadians. The Canadians did more than your Norwegians. On the first day of D-Day we pushed the farthest in land. Dieppe Raid, of course that was a horrible defeat for us. We died trying to open up another *beep* front in Europe. WHERES OUR *beep* MEMORIAL TO THOSE SOLDIERS WHO DIED ON THOSE BEACHES? No one remembers or even knows about the sacrifices we made during World War 2.

Canadians are unrecognized to the rest of this racist world. After all we've done, we're recognized as eskimo's and hippies in the middle of a battle. When really look into the history, even as far back as World War 1, where we took a German position, that could not be taken by British or French soldiers.

And to those patriotic Americans who think that they won the war all themselves... you came in late, so you had more munitions than all of the rest of us do, so you're able to push the Germans back.

Don't forget that Russia had a pact of non-aggression until July 22, 1941, when Germany invaded them. The Russians had absolutely no intentions of helping the allied cause until they had to defend themselves and needed help themselves.

And plus, a good movie has the heroes fighting for a noble cause. When the country you are defending has killed, imprisoned, tortured, and systematically oppressed more people than the "bad guy" you are fighting, where's the nobility?