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Jonas and The Guild

posted 9 years ago by cpc8472-1
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I am starting to suspect that Jonas Sr. was Force Majeure. All these pieces here and there seem to vaguely fit. He was likely killed by, or deposed by The Sovereign, or perhaps just wanted to retire anonymously and handed the Guild over to him. The Sovereign even briefly took on Jonas' form in ATAG2.

* We always see him and Team Venture battling members of the Fraternity or Torment, not Guild villains, and the FoT was a rival organization of the Guild.
* The Monarch's dad / Blue Morpho (I don't think he's on OUR side)/ Venturion / Vandata. The "plane crash". Kano's confession about taking from the world a great man. Kano Joining Team Venture. Col. Gentleman - "Don't believe everything you read in those comics." And we haven't heard the last about the baby killing either. They can't just drop it like that.
* The Monarch can't remember playing with Rusty as a child.
* Doc probably doesn't remember playing with young Malcolm either, and maybe that's why Doc also didn't remember Hector (not just because Doc is dick). Memory wipe or alteration likely.

There is something very sinister going on. Jonas probably played at being a "good guy" in the public eye but behind the scenes he ran the Guild of Calamitous Intent. And he might come back!

[–] Deathlok_Lives 9 years ago

Its possible either or both Rusty & Monarch are clones same as Hank & Dean (Death prone children) That's why the don't remember certain things from childhood.

Also I am fairly certain they are in fact brothers.

[–] cyber_nerdz 9 years ago

I have already theorised Monarch is the original Rusty and Doc Venture is actually 'the spare' (maybe as a decoy). My leap was for the same as yours i.e. Jonas had to have had a reason to develop the cloning process originally and he was not exactly the greatest father out there.

I was actually quite excited when they teased Jonas as being the head of the guild and hoped they were going to have him say 'The bad guys were running around making a mess so I took over to keep the world safe by keeping them in line from the inside... but then I got a little bored and a little drunk and meh'.

After all TVB is a show about failure and Jonas was the world greatest success so him falling the hardest from grace did make sense.