Just wondering how many people knew that South Korea sent troops to help the U.S. fight NVA and VC in South Vietnam? I was there in '68 and '69, a U.S. Marine, and I always remember hearing about how the ROKs had a hell of a reputation as ferocious combat soldiers. We helped them in the early '50s and they reciprocated. My best regards to our allies from the Republic of Korea who served with us in the 'Nam. Semper Fi.
Trust the Americans to use a film website to promote one of their wars. Nobody gives a damn if the Koreans helped the US or not. You got your asses kicked anyway. Besides I would say their "help" was due more to American political pressure then any sense of loyalty to the US. This is a film website, if you want to spread American propaganda I suggest you start a blog on Fox news website.
What American propaganda am I spreading? Where are you from and what is your agenda? Politically, yes, I don't deny South Korea was pressured to send troops. The U.K. was pressured also but chose not to. Those are different matters though. I speak not of the politics of war but of the camaraderie formed by those whose lives together are at peril. I was not for the war and, frankly, I rue that time and all the young lives that were lost. Whether we got our "asses kicked" might be up for discussion, however. Casualty counts speak of a different outcome.
''Well said wolfman. I think your statement is heartfelt and dont listen to these *beep* who have to turn everything into a political statement.''
No offense but it is hard not to when people are talking about soldiers being pressured to fight in a war that should never have been fought by the USA and its allies - as the populace mostly supported the side they were fighting against. In fact the Viet Cong were simply peasant fighters from South Vietnam. Ngô Dình Diem, an intolerant Christian (thus part of the powerful minority) and his successors were not supported by the majority of the South Vietnamese populace which is why the Viet Cong was quite a large fighting force that attacked from anywhere.
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The reason why South Korea sent troops was not only because of political pressure but the president at the time, Park Chung-Hee, was looking forward for a stronger alliance with America and South Korea's army could receive new weapons and equipment not only to make it more effective against the NVA and Vietcong but to prepare for any potential North Korean attack that time.
So, the decision to send troops due to political pressure was just one reason out of many. SK's military before being deployed to Vietnam was still relying in WW2-era equipment but upon fighting in Vietnam, the US gave them more modern weaponry and gear as a reward as well as strengthening their troop size in Korea. Political pressure or not, it was for good.
The fact that you morons glorify war and pretend to be 'fighting men' while killing women and children?
"Where are you from and what is your agenda?"
So anyone who hates useless white morons trying to glorify war on these boards and act tough when all they are was a cog in the military-industrial complex that is ruining and bankrupting the US itself by over-spending has an 'agenda'?! Paranoid aren't we?
"I speak not of the politics of war but of the camaraderie formed by those whose lives together are at peril."
Camaraderie? You are patronizing a bunch of Koreans who are risking their lives to help a bunch of racists who call their kind *beep* and who probably resent the fact ONLY because their superiors told them to do so. P.S> Hey, can you explain how much 'camaraderie' you have when you suffer 'friendly fire'?
"I was not for the war"
But you don't have much of a problem killing foreigners don't you?
"Whether we got our "asses kicked" might be up for discussion, however. Casualty counts speak of a different outcome.'
It's not the casualty toll that counts it's whether the OBJECTIVE was achieved; The Vietcong achieved their objective of ousting you vermin from their country; just like The Afghans are busy bankrupting you now. For a bunch of guys who lose so often and wind up so miserable, it amazes me how you retards can come on these boards and puff up your chest like you achieved something. OK?
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If you were any other nationality, I'd say you were trying to be sarcastic. But since you yanks don't get sarcasm, so I'd say that you were trying to be profound but wound up looking clueless .....
wow, and to think names and posts don't go hand in hand. btw, the film has EVERYTHING to do with wolfman's post. i bet you didn't even see the movie. if you had, you would be confused. i know i was. i had to do some quick history reading. i didn't know koreans were part of the vietnam war effort. i actually thought they were korean actors playing us soliders for the first 10 minutes of the movie.
As an African American I see it different. Heroin from Afghanistan sells much cheaper on the streets of New York than Heroin from Vietnam. Capitalism one commies zero. i can't wait until we beat the Colombians in a war, then I can get some cheap crack cocaine. USA
''He was thankfully acknowledging the noble sacrifices that South Koreans made alongside their American allies during Vietnam.''
The whole point is that it was not a noble sacrifice, it was just a waste of lives. The South Koreans, like the US Americans, only went to help an unpopular political entity fight against what was more or less a peasant uprising. The Viet Cong were South Vietnamese and were a massive fighting force for the simple reason that the Vietminh were supported by the majority of the Vietnamese people.
And your use of ''the south's liberation'' only shows your ignorance regarding the conflict.
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Yeah, that's low. The man is paying his respects. Ditch the politics. The US had major pull in NATO and SEATO, but only Korea and Australia helped. It's only decent that we express our gratitude. And as for "getting our asses kicked", I challenge you to name a battle that we lost.
and the man is not waving any flag here, either. matter of fact he said he was AGAINST the war, like many americans were. all he was doing was showing respect to the south koreans for serving side by side with him. many people who fought in wars did so reluctantly and i'd say that takes a lot of courage. how many wars did you risk your life in? ..didn't think so because judging by your outrageous post here you sure sound like a coward. and YOU sir, with your ignorance and disrespect make ME sick.
bilgeboy, I shouldn't even acknowledge your tripe, but I won't let you get away with these disrespectful comments.
Nearly 60,000 Americans died in that war, many before reaching the tender age of twenty. How do you think their parents would feel hearing you say they died for no reason?
In the 1960s the Cold War was raging, Vietnam was front and center. Our involvement there was the free world's response to what was believed to be - at the time - a threat to our freedom. It's easy now, some 40 years later, to see the futility of that war, but don't disparage the name of those who fought and suffered and gave up everything. Their sacrifice stands on its own. They were Americans answering the call of their country, doing what they were told.
Have you done anything for your country that measures up to that?
I just took a ride two weeks ago in Daegu, Korea with a taxi driver that said he was a former ROK marine in Vietnam. He was very pro-American. It's odd how the vietnam conflict still has such a knee-jerk reaction to anti-Americans. The people who talk about it on both sides probably have no idea about the statistics, people or campaigns involved. It's like they might as well be arguing about lizards on Mars... In a snarky tone.
Wow, this sure turned into a 'you suck - no, you suck' kinda thread.
South Korea sent soldiers alongside US ones in the Vietnam War. South Korea got a nice sum of money out of it which is used to kick-start the economy it enjoyed today, as well as SOuth Korean soldiers and US GIs developing a healthy respect for each other.
Yes, it's a cheesy b-movie but so what? No one denies that Dawn of the Dead was capable of social commentary.
That is all, really.
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A friend of mine who was a Vietnam veteran attested to that. Another one said that the ROK soldiers would offer Americans hand to hand combat training and that they were tough as nails.