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Colin was not gay. Period.


I have nothing against Colin being homosexual..in fact it could have been a really definite twist but from what I think, despite some allusions, he is certainly not one....
Here is my explanation....

In the early part of the film, during the rugby match, Colin makes some harsh comments about firefighters being homos which sort of explains his distaste for the same behavior and it is a bit unclear whether he himself is one or not.

During his first day in SIU, he observes a woman's hips and even whistles at then. He stares at them again and he certainly does not look as if he is queer or something.

Of course, there are moments where he is unable to get it up and perform but did you notice the moments where he really gets all hot and turned on- passionately kissing Madolyn just before Costello calls him up or that scene towards the end- when he grabs her and starts kissing her after she shows him the X-ray?

You can say safely that Colin was at times impotent and the compulsive liar that he was, he even made a huge thing of his sexual life (yeah, it is working. Overtime)but my feeling is that his sexual performance was directly affected by his life as an insider.

He was tempted by the security and prestige that his job as a cop was offering him and he was sort of confused- that if he goes back to Costello, where does it lead to- the same grubby life from which he had been rescued in the first place? To hold all that temporary security and sense of luxury together, he was at times extremely anxious and it was this anxiety that showed up in places.

His initial night with Madolyn goes wrong for the simple reason that the pressure is building on him- he is tipping Costello off, he is trying to cover up murders made by the gang and all of that puts a pressure on him.

Whereas, in that scene when he starts kissing her while at home before Costello calls, he feels at temporary peace and security and he relishes it perfectly.

The same is with the scene in the end- he feels that he has nothing more to lose- Billy's identity is erased, noone will harm him now, Costello is gone and he can now start a nice family. It is this idea itself which sparks his sexuality.

What do you think?

You can say that

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The theme of the film is of fertility as a trait that belongs to do-gooders. Frank had no sons. Costigan impregnated Madolyn. Colin picked the room with the view of the church, and Frank has a speech, talking to the priests about boy 'rape.' Frank may have plucked Colin just like the priests did. Fighting for dominance over manipulatable young males, Frank won Colin's servitude. Having no father, Colin bent toward the more powerful male, Frank. The servitude of a villain, the abuse by priests, and the self-doubt for his entire life's cause never allowed him to find his own way with women. He's performative in the elevator, a talent he's had to develop for his career. Turning the tide on Frank sealed his redemption, but he shot his only ally, the other rat in the unit of Frank's that helped him escape arrest. In Frank's world, he had no allies. He had to control everyone around him. He had to kill a lot of people "to become me." Colin killed his first ally because he was afraid and tried to go it alone, like Frank. Colin would have had to kill a lot of people, but he opted to shy away and eat his croissants and milk from his relationship and childhood memories, nostalgia. Killing his only ally instantly returned him to Frank's world as Frank's figurative son. This happens by killing the ally. The moment when he is told he has an ally, is the only time in which he was living in his new world. Costigan's and Trooper Brown's death were the last of the loose ends, the battle for survival between their generation of males. If Colin had his ally and didn't shoot him, they would have been able to deal with Dignam. Colin wasn't even preparing for him. He was too broken by his loss of his woman, a battle he should have quickly moved on from rather than living in self-pity, going the route of the foody.

The whole web of mob controlling priests, feds always trying to clamp down on mob, mob working angles capitalizing on the conflict between feds' team of Nation against Another Nation (China)... It's like a fractal of male teams competing, and through the competition, new teams are created. They come and go, sometimes in an instant. Frank had a long reign, Colin did not. Trooper Brown wanted to stick to the rules to avoid the complication. The rule breaker team cut him up, but the institution just has a funeral. The Chinese are duped, but not by the American Government.

It's an utterly brilliant film.

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He's not gay (at least probably not) he just has some severe insecurity in regards to his own masculinity. Actually, most of the characters have a degree of insecurity (Billy Costigan, Captain Ellerby and Sean Dignam included). One of the best scenes is Sullivan calling out Costello not having sons (a jab at his masculine identity) and an enraged Costello attempting to shoot him over the remark. The biggest theme of the film is masculine insecurity and identity. People need to watch this film again and try to analyze it from this perspective. It's pretty brilliant actually.

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I don't think Colin was gay. I do think he was sexually abused as an alter boy though.

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Watch the film again.

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Then you are truly blessed.

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He's sexually confused and has performance issues due to years of sexual abuse from Catholic Priests. Gay or straight is not really the point. It's more about his sexual confusion and his own insecurity of who he is.

Calling firemen homos in the presence of another male police officer has no real significance on his true sexuality. The biggest theme of the movie is about identity and pretending to be someone you're not. "I want my identity back."

Colin works in a testosterone driven work environment. He puts on an act to fit in with the rest of the guys. That includes calling firemen homos (cops hate firemen and vice versa) and making overt looks / whistling at civilian (female) employees. Colin is simply trying to fit in with everyone based upon his perceptions of how a male police officer presents himself. He's playing a role; acting like someone he isn't in his attempts to blend in.

Baldwin's remarks about a wedding ring and what that symbolizes to men and women - that his cock works - just further illustrates the theme of outward appearance masking true inner feelings. Dignam also makes reference to this theme as well during the interview. He said some guys just want to wear a gun a badge and look the part of a police officer while others just want to "smash a *beep* head through a plate glass window."





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Greene_Devil
"I don't think Colin was gay. I do think he was sexually abused as an alter boy though."

What makes you think that? Now he got sexually abused? When did they ever refer to that? This is out of control and now really just insane.

If Colin is going to be questioned about his sexuality, then why not question Costello?


Frank "You're givin me a hard on."

Girl "You sure? Not all that wiffin ass you been talking about"

Frank "Watch your mouth"

Girl "no you watch it, let me STRAIGHTen you out"

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I don't think he was gay, but there were WAY too many references about it, that the audience is defeinitely supposed to know that Colin is uncomfortable with his sexuality.

Its just another example, that he was 2-faced. He acts like this confident, lady's man hero, but he was everything but that, in reality.

Straight up gay? No.... a sexually fragile creep? Sure. There were like 10 references about it.... Film-makers don't put things in movies for no reason, let alone 10 times.

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