We've seen this theme many times, almost always executed better. That much is obvious, so I won't dwell on it. That it was boring and completely predictable could be subjective. That the Jamie Bell character was annoying as hell for never speaking up could be considered intentional. That the "bad boy," the self-help gurus, and Jamie Bell's prescription drug abuse were over-the-top could be attributed to the film being a satire. What cannot be excused, however, is that the one character who is supposed to be sane, or at the very least, different from the rest, ends up with a vacuous, amoral twat whose only redemptive quality (apart from being good looking) is her realization, after knowingly participating in a kidnapping, that maybe it wasn't such a good idea. There is no reason whatsoever that Jamie Bell's character would even want to know her. Likewise, it makes no sense that the mayor, after his revelation, would want anything to do with big-boobs Matrix woman. These characters, like the movie in its entirety, are worthless and *beep*
What is wrong with you people!? I always hear people saying "this is probably the worst movie I've ever seen" - stop saying that because It IS the worst movie I've seen. Seriously I remember watching this with my brother and at the end we both said that we haven't seen worst movie that this, it was so illogical and I love surreal movies (Donnie darko and Lost highway are one of my favorites) but this was the kind of movie where even the director didn't know what was happening!
this movie was a sad effort to make a setire about sociaty and it failed miserably. the script was terrible, it was all too predictable and unrealistic although it was trying hard to be real (im sorry but real people dont actually talk that way). the charectors were chliches of themselves and as much as the actors were good, it was wasnt enough to save this movie.
i mean c'mon - the psychatrist father who thinks pills are the answer for all? the depressed kid who doesnt fit it? the mother who doesnt notice her kid was missing for 3 days ?? (y right), and the villain who is a bored bully trying to make everybodys life missrable...and the major who's gone crazy, i mean majors dont behave that way in real life. plzzzzzzzz this movie is bad!
I can definetly see why a person wouldn't like this movie, and most of you had made valid points, but I actually enjoyed the film. The characters seemed pretty genuine to me. Didn't really dig the whole mayor being crazy subplot, film would have been a ton better if they just focused on the kids.
"A guilty conscience needs to confess. A work of art is a confession." - Albert Camus
If this is the worst film you've ever seen then you haven't seen that many movies. I can name dozens of films that are worse than this. I like this movie for its satirical moments, its like watching a dramatic cartoon but with real people. If you view it this way, you'll like it but if you view it as if its "supposed" to be perfect in every way then you won't like it.
You people are dense. Have any of you seen Little Miss Sunshine? Pigeonholed characters rock. They're the best to destroy. "20/20 vision man, it's a gift". They're so single minded they kind of remind me of lemmings. Without that eye, Billy might as well walk off a cliff.
The whole thing is dripping satire. If you think there's a serious moment in the whole movie, it's probably when Dean finds Troy hanging. The thing is, the satire isn't exactly satire. It's a mockery of society, as someone pointed out, but they hit it on the head from the moment the buildings sprout into a neighborhood. We're working with the "ideal, all-American families" here.
Dean's mom is peddling pills called VeggiForce, which probably contain speed. You may think "haha so unrealistic" but research chemicals take time to ban, and new compounds come out regularly. Go buy some K2 while you still can.
When Dean walks out of Troy's... eh, building, do you really think he would walk over and be like oh, your son hung himself. Would you do that? I would have been just as quiet, probably not even say hi in response to her.
Dean is annoying? Are you being serious here? His father is a psychiatrist (I go to one personally) and yeah, they do seem to think that pills are the answer to everything. I even had an argument with my psychiatrist about alternative methods for dealing with stress. Like yoga and meditation. I made her eat her words, but Dean's dad? "Now don't fight me on this son, I prescribe this to lots of patients". What a dick.
Dean's brother doesn't do much of anything except for lace the funeral casserole. The rest of the movie, he plays his game. The chumscrubber game who's main character shares a persona with Troy.
Troy ran the teen world with his distribution. I'm pretty sure the pills were the only way for the kids to cope with their pitiful, self absorbed parents. One day, Troy says *beep* it all and kills himself. Billy heads the spear-point to try to obtain what the kids need. It all flows around what each person needs. Mayor's fiance, power. The Mayor himself, to be free (like a dolphin). People make drastic career changes in the middle of their lives as they find they are unhappy. Dean's mom takes over the VeggiForce regime, feeding pills to the masses. Dean's dad has a poor turnout at his book convention. Face it, this world is one of pills. Not books.
I believe Troy's death was the jolt that ended that which should not have existed. After all, he's the chumscrubber. People did not belong where they were. In their jobs, with their parents. Charlie was better off with his dad, lifting weights.
If you think this movie is bad, then you probably can't see past the outward demeanor of each character. They're all intertwined, and it goes much deeper than I care to go on about.
Finally somebody appreciated how great this movie is. Brilliant analysis Disillusions, at least I'm not the only one that got it. As for the people that didn't, I pity them all.
"This is the west sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
I liked it very much. Extraordinary cast, people who can pick and choose their projects. Guess they all signed on because it was so horrible! Really, folks.
You guys can take your troll business elsewhere, because for those who truly admire this film, we understand things like making a film on a very tight budget, ummm...ART, and true beauty in film making.
People who dislike The Chumscrubber are the same people that think the crust is the best part of the pizza.