why did anne sleep with stark?
why did anne sleep with stark?
shareShe claimed to be in love with him, but she also was trying to get money for a children's home.
shareok, thanks. i remember seeing stark give money to anne, but i just assumed he was using her like he wanted to use her brother. i guess she was using him too.
shareIt should be noted that in the book, you never see Stark giving Anne money. You hear that they meet then you find that they are sleeping together through Sadie Burke.
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Hey, Tolham,
It is politics, the fine art of using and being used. A corrupt, amoral form of symbiotics. Plus, she was confused from the get-go. What else is there?
waste yourself before others do. uh huh.
Anne slept with Willie because she felt so hurt & confused after Jack
wouldn't have her (in the book). She resented Jack & was then seduced
by Willie. There was an element of self-loathing in her surrender to Stark.
In Robert Penn Warren's book, Jack Burden was the main character.
The story was symbolic. Jack kept chasing Anne (way before Willie).The key scene was where Anne finally gave in, & Jack chickened out. He didn't care enough to risk either his sexual reputation or his moral reputation by openly taking her(her family unexpectedly arrived & almost trapped them). Jack should have taken Anne and fought for her, Warren implies. When he wimped out, Anne became fair game for Willie. Jack became totally passive & apathetic, a stooge for Willie. Until the end, when he finally got some guts--and on the final page, Jack, who has dictated the story, reveals he went after & married Anne after Adam killed Willie.
That's a pretty touching ending.
The symbolism: Jack's indecision about Anne, Willie, etc symbolizes the Intelligentsia's indecision about Huey Long. Instead of supporting either
Huey, the Rich (Standard Oil, etc.), or neither, the educated middle class
should have put forward its own brand of Honest Progressive, like Hodding Carter
in next-door Mississippi, Warren implies. When they failed to do so, Huey
seduced and ravished the poor class of voters, the way Willie seduced & ravished
Anne.
Of course, none of that made it into the remade movie. The better 1st movie
hinted at it, but not nearly as clearly as the book.
PS
Dr. Carl Weiss (whose father's middle name was Adam!) was a friend of my father.
My uncle dated Russell Long ("Tom"). Dr. Weiss (Adam Stanton) probably just
punched Huey in the mouth. The guards ran up & shot Huey by accident. Hence,
Huey wasn't really assassinated. The guards were sequestered and a "story"
was cooked up for them. Weiss was shot scores of times.
None of the Warren symbolic story about Jack (Chick Frampton) and Anne
(Yvonne Pavy Weiss) is historical. Huey publicly accused the Pavy's (and hence
Dr. Weiss' wife & baby) of having African-American blood as a political trick.
Hence the punch in the mouth. Dr. Weiss was a devout Catholic and as sane
as they come--he was no assassin.
Very Interesting! Thanks for the insight on what occured at the "assasination"...Googling this info I see that all of the assassination theories are still unsolved and it does look like Huey Long (Stark) was hit by a stray bullet of the guards shooting Dr Weiss(Adam Stanton). The autopsy indeed indicates that Long was punched in the mouth and that the bullet that killed Long was the same as the bullets in the guard's guns. A weapon of Dr Weiss was not found at the scene. Dr Weiss was shot 62 times...GEEZ...yes I can see that a stray bullet might happen!
When people post things like this, sometimes it is hard to believe, but Googling most of this, I see that it comes up true!
Great description Jacob3 - I completely agree - especially about the self-loathing. Women who have been rejected or hurt often do these sorts of things - men do it too. It doesn't make sense unless you get into their hurt and abject loneliness a little.
"Anne slept with Willie because she felt so hurt & confused after Jack
wouldn't have her (in the book). She resented Jack & was then seduced
by Willie. There was an element of self-loathing in her surrender to Stark. "
"In Robert Penn Warren's book, Jack Burden was the main character.
The story was symbolic. Jack kept chasing Anne (way before Willie).The key scene was where Anne finally gave in, & Jack chickened out. He didn't care enough to risk either his sexual reputation or his moral reputation by openly taking her(her family unexpectedly arrived & almost trapped them). Jack should have taken Anne and fought for her, Warren implies. When he wimped out, Anne became fair game for Willie. Jack became totally passive & apathetic, a stooge for Willie. Until the end, when he finally got some guts--and on the final page, Jack, who has dictated the story, reveals he went after & married Anne after Adam killed Willie. "
What hump?