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2 things I learned from this movie


I just saw this movie for the first time tonight. How depressing of a movie. Not just the plot but the music, the sounds, and the whole atmosphere.

Two things I took away from this movie:

1. I will never...ever live in LA. What a dump. It looks like hell. Why would you ever want to live there? I guess living in the Midwest for all these years makes me appreciate what I have here. I feel sorry for all the poor souls there in LA.
2. I don't want to have kids. Boy are they dumb. At least my dog will come to me when I tell him to. These two kids represents a parent's worse nightmare: rebellious and stupid.

Overall, a dark, moody movie worth seeing, but don't expect to be laughing at the end.

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woods character isnt nearly as bad and rebellious as the 1 in thirteen. or pretty persuasion but in that she desperatly wants her fathers attention.

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I have lived in LA for four years, and I don't plan on staying here for too many more years, but LA isn't all bad. Some good things:

* If you like theater, plays, live music, etc., there are hundreds to choose from. Playing tonight.
* If you like museums, LA has dozens on all sorts of subjects. The Getty, LACMA, Skirball, MOCA, to mention a few of the bigger ones.
* If you like nature, LA is less than three hours drive from three deserts, four mountain ranges, four large forests including three national parts, and a hundred beaches on the Pacific Ocean.
* LA is home to dozens of expatriate colonies and their restaurants, theaters, markets, etc. Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Armenian, Ethiopian, Persian, etc.
* If you like ethnic food of any variety, LA has a minimum of six restaurants of that type. Probably more.
* It is possible to find several open-air markets each morning and evening where you can find the freshest produce, fish, and meat that ever crossed your lips. (If you use these markets regularly, you can actually learn the names of the people who grew and raised your food).
* If you stay close the coast, the temperature stays nice and stable (and temperate) all year round.

However, as portrayed in the film, LA is also polluted, littered, smoggy, has awful traffic, has a higher fraction of shallow and irritating people than most places...

Like many things, living in LA is a trade-off. For many people, the trade-off makes sense.

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Ok the LA thing I get, although I'm guessing not all of LA is like that, but your comment about having kids.. what the hell? I don't even know if you're being serious or not. Do you realise you just compared human beings to dogs?

Ironically, this isn't even ironic at all.

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i compare humans to dogs quite frequently, but mostly because my dogs think they're humans and i see them as my children rather than my pets. but that's not to say that i don't love human children and can't wait to have some of my own. honestly, i prefer dogs to adult humans. but human children and dogs are equally wonderful in my eyes. there's a lot of similarities between raising both. the best thing about dogs is that they continue to stay innocent children for the rest of their lives, whereas human children grow up to become not-so-innocent adults.

This is not my signature.

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The movie takes place in the San Fernando Valley. Not the city of Los Angeles.

I make the distinction because I am originally from SFV - and the Valley is a diverse and varying place. Like any other area it has nicer cities and uglier cities.

I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

The movie wasn't depressing. It gave me a headache at the end, so much going on and none of it good. Ed Norton gave a wonderful performance as always.

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It's important to realize that the movie was shot intentionally to make L.A. look this way. It was weird how many scenes there were in the film where I said, "Hey, that's right down the street from where I used to live," but it doesn't look like anywhere near that bad in real life.

The lighting, the time of day, the camera angle selection, the hazey weird vibe, etc.....it's all done to make the audience say the same thing that you are saying now. It's not meant to look like a comfortable place, because it's supposed to suite how the characters are feeling and what they are going through (lonely, confused, in a haze, etc). However there are plenty of comfortable places in the L.A area. And plus, the valley is *beep* anyway, but if you drive an hour in the other direction (north or south), it's much much nicer (Orange County and Santa Barbara).
I live in Burbank, which is considered the valley, and it's way nicer than you'd think from this film too. Amazing how 10 minutes away makes all the difference here, whereas the mid west isn't like that as much.

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--The movie takes place in the San Fernando Valley. Not the city of Los Angeles--

Yes, not LA. Ummmm...this area of California was rather exhausting, and depressing, but I believe that was the point.

Cupcakes and Pink Glitter. Mmmm.

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