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Is real life as tech savvy as these CSI shows?


City, state and government jobs are known for being the most technophobic and innovatively slow moving jobs around. Does this apply to crime scene investigation jobs? These CSI shows would have us believe that these guys are now experts at computer science, chemistry and biology. Is that true? Do those departments live up to the stratospheric promise that these shows expect us to believe? My guess is hell no but I really don't have a clue to what degree they get the job done.

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These CSI shows would have us believe that these guys are now experts at computer science, chemistry and biology.


I am not really convinced on that part:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU

So much wrong with that, but no programmer who ever hopes to be taken seriously uses visual basic.

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Why don't you watch Real Life CSI and decide for yourself?

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In real life, crime labs don't have a Star Trek holodeck to examine 3D virtual bodies. They don't have monitors made of panes of glass, or tables where the entire surface is a giant iPad. DNA testing takes weeks if not months. A 5-10 person CSI team doesn't show up to every dead body to pick up individual grains of sand with tweezers, and then spend the next week figuring out where they came from.

These shows are entertaining, but they're pretty much science fiction. Most of what they show is probably possible, but it's not done in real life.

It's like a teenager writing a completely new computer operating system from scratch, by themselves in their bedroom. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely to actually happen? Not really.


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I have seen them do things that were impossible. One the I clearly remember was that the took a phot and did something to it to reveal details that were totally impossible because the photo did not have the resolution. Somewhat similar to taking a picture of the moon with your cell phone camera and enlarging it so that you can see the foot print of the astronauts.

It can't be done.

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I have seen them do things that were impossible. One the I clearly remember was that the took a phot and did something to it to reveal details that were totally impossible because the photo did not have the resolution. Somewhat similar to taking a picture of the moon with your cell phone camera and enlarging it so that you can see the foot print of the astronauts.


I know exactly what you mean.

They take a blurry security camera photo of a person 100 feet away, that's probably 640x480 resolution, and "enhance" it to the point where they can read the bar code on the person's ID tag.

Another one of my pet peeves is when they rule out suspects based on which hand was used to stab someone, or how high/low the wound is, or what size shoe print they found. If I were going to kill someone, I'd make sure to wear worn down shoes of the wrong size, and then stab the person with my 'wrong' hand while slightly crouching.

Various computer scenes drive me crazy too. In one episode of CSI Miami, a woman was exchanging email with some criminals. They killed the crooks in a warehouse and then cloned the hard drive. So far, so good. Then they take it back to the lab and apparently plug it into their system and boot it, because it asks for a password and if they enter the wrong one three times, it will be erased forever! First, it's a cloned copy, they can make as many copies as they need. Second, no crime lab examines a hard drive by booting it. To top it off, they find the password on a key logger taken from the woman's computer, because apparently when you exchange encrypted email with someone, you use the password from their computer!??

That ranks right up there with being able to find information on a wiped hard drive. I'm sorry, but no. When a drive is wiped with even a single pass, the data is gone. If you take the platter(s) out and put then in hugely expensive machines, they might be able to detect some residual magnetic patterns, providing that each area of the drive wasn't written to more than once.

You don't need to smash perfectly good hard drives with a hammer (as I've seen some people do) to get rid of the information on them. Just download a low level format/zero-fill program and run it. The data is gone forever and someone else can make use of the drive.


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I have another good one, and I have seen it on more than one show but do not remembers the shows I saw it on.

They see a hole in a wall or a bullet hole in a person and proclaim it is a 9 MM. The problem is the difference in size between a 9MM and a .38 special bullet is less than 3 thousands of an inch. I would say it is impossible to determine the difference of 3 thousands of an inch just by looking at it.

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On Rizzoli & Isles, Jane Rizzoli test fires a gun, fishes the bullet out of the water tank, looks at it and declares it a match to one that they recovered from a dead body. She didn't even need a magnifying glass!

Also, do they really determine the time of death at the scene by sticking a thermometer with a metal spike into the victim's liver? It seems like that would be tampering with evidence. I know it's unlikely, but there's the chance that the hole made by the spike could disturb or mask something else on its way through the body & liver.


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Liver temp has been used to calculate time of death, they use formulas that include room temperature to come to a close estimate of TOD. I do not know if they still use that method, but delaying obtaining a liver temp may prevent them from ever getting the needed data. Eventually the temp of the liver will equalize with the temp of the room and at that point they will have lost the opportunity to collect the data. I guess they have to determine whether it is more important to get a temp reading or leave the body undisturbed.

PS I have never watched Rizzoli & Isles but that would have been a scene worthy a double face palm.

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PS I have never watched Rizzoli & Isles but that would have been a scene worthy a double face palm.


It's mostly a buddy show with detective Jane Rizzoli being best friends with the coroner Maura Isles. Jane is a typical tomboy, while Maura is more uptight and socially awkward, often blurting out uncomfortable medical facts at embarrassing times. It's kind of like an all-female version of the show Bones.

The CSI stuff is only a small portion of the show, with much of it focusing on the characters themselves and the police investigation. However, the CSI science is often even more far-fetched than the CSI shows.


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also, in real life...CSI personnel do NOT conduct interviews..do NOT carry firearms...do NOT engage in stakeouts or shootouts...are required to be uniformed police before qualifying for the position in CSI..sooooo...these shows would not be as entertaining if a few literary licenses were not allowed

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From what I understand there are some departments that use cops for CSI and other use non - police. The department I worked for started a CSI in the early 1970s and all the people involved were cops. That was over 40 years ago and I do not know if they still use all cops today.

I still remember an episode from a few years ago where they took a picture and enlarged it to get some details. It was impossible, it would be like someone taking a picture of the moon with a cell phone camera and enlarging it enough to see an astronauts foot print.

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While CSI NY and CSI Miami did things with computers or new non exsistant stuff that Real life dont use most of that stuff is now becoming reality .


a Show called Crim 360 they use a 3D camera scanner that scans the entire Crime scene then they take all the data b back and construct a 3D computer model of the scene to play around with.

( Crime 360 is an American reality television show based on homicide detective units in various cities across the United States, including Richmond, Virginia; Rochester, New York; Little Rock, Arkansas; Indianapolis, Indiana; Cleveland, Ohio. The detective units in each of these cities use a Leica or a Deltasphere three-dimensional scanner to photograph the crime scene, essentially "freezing" it for study during the investigation; hence, the series title "Crime 360."
It is produced by BASE Productions. [1] )


Now the with CSI Miami they use Glass projected computers now this is a Real thing now and has been for the past couple of years or more as they use specialized sheets of glass with Multi-touch layer board on them or what ever and they project from behind the OS and or anything they want. this is no more used in DJ music creation http://www.smithsonmartin.com/products/emulator-dvs/




Now most of what we see in those 2 CSI are becoming reality now as for the original CSI LV show it has been since day one a little more grounded in reality as while they do some minor or sometimes big things that may not see liek a possibilities it is still fun to watch as was the other 2 CSIs


As for things like DNA stuff well this is only a 43min to 45min show so time is crucial to the show but a good most of the time on the show the DNA is done in days somtiumes even weeks on the show as when we see them do the DNA stuff most of the main players in the show have changed cloths signifying another day now this is not always the case but most of the time it is

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As for things like DNA stuff well this is only a 43min to 45min show so time is crucial to the show but a good most of the time on the show the DNA is done in days somtiumes even weeks on the show as when we see them do the DNA stuff most of the main players in the show have changed cloths signifying another day now this is not always the case but most of the time it is

I remember reading that an actual DNA test only takes a couple of days (or less, I forget). But it's the huge backlog at crime labs that causes tests in real life to take months. So it's not the test itself but getting to it.

If you can't walk and talk/text at the same time, do the rest of us a favor and get out of the way.

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They're also not going to run DNA on 25-30 people or more to find one suspect either, like with the CSI rape/murder where the real killer planted the knife in the carwash. It's way too expensive even now.

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I have a problem with this show: Since when did scientists, nerdy computer geeks and doctors go around arresting suspects and doing the detectives job? Does that even happen anywhere?

"Let's get out of here before one of those things kills Guy!"

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No. But it would be quite boring if they did a show on crime scene collection only.

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I have a problem with this show: Since when did scientists, nerdy computer geeks and doctors go around arresting suspects and doing the detectives job? Does that even happen anywhere?


In TV shows, that's been happening since at least the show Quincy. There may be even earlier examples of lab workers acting as detectives, but if there are, I don't know of them.


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