I've just rewatched this--and nothing has changed. It's literally the most boring, nonsensical, saddest excuse of a movie ever created. And before one of you responds, "Surely you don't mean the worst movie you've EVER seen." Yes, I mean the worst.
This was one of those movies Directors create for the snobby people. You know, the ones who would rather die than call something a "movie" and not a "film." You see them every day--many won't watch anything that costs more than a certain budget. Some will only watch movies by a French director with a hard-to-pronounce name, and even then they'll only watch movies created on the fourth day of the month of August between the years of 1944 and 1947 while simultaneously drawling on and on about the mise en scene.
I once saw a post on this movie a year ago, where an IMDB user literally wrote 5k words about the meaning behind the scene where the guy who looks like Eminem randomly exits his car, punches the main character in the face, and then returns to his car.
In other words, this movie exists for the people who feel smart by bashing Transformers, for the people who would believe a homeless man randomly sleeping in an art museum to be an exhibit, which explores the metaphor of isolation.
You seem to mistake this fairly simple neo-noir for a film that is very complex (or is 'pretentious') or an 'art film'.
It is not. It is simply a noir in a modern day setting. It would not surprise me if (as I can only infer from your post) you have been told to 'Go watch Transformers' or something to that effect, because your post here lacks any critical analysis, and is fairly hostile due to your dislike of its (apparent) audience/fanbase.
"for the people who would believe a homeless man randomly sleeping in an art museum to be an exhibit"
And yet someone could easily accuse you of being the opposite, just some random Joe who wouldn't know quality because he has to be shown it by Holywood.
Art is in the eye of the beholder. It's not the film's fault you're a simpleton.
And Brick really isn't as simple as trash with design to it. Sure, it subverts the form, and was made on a shoe string budget, I don't see the argument that that is a bad thing.
Boring? Well, that would be your opinion. Sorry it made you use all three of your brain cells and didn't have car chases and bright lights for you to enjoy.
The scene in the Pin's house with his mom and cookies was bloody genius.
"Sorry it made you use all three of your brain cells and didn't have car chases and bright lights for you to enjoy. "
This is precisely the attitude of the fans, who by extension, take one of the most boring movies ever created and make it worse.
Reality check: Regardless of whether or not you've used your brain to understand a movie, the result is still the same--it doesn't *beep* matter. You are not somehow a "superior being" for having done it. It's this smug pretentiousness that drives me to write this and my opening post.
You'll never publicly admit it, and I can almost guarantee your response will be to deny the following, but what I am about to say is the truth--you enjoy this (and other movies like this) not because you actually enjoy the movie, but because it gives you some distorted sense of sanctification and feeling of elitism to watch a bizarrely disinterested movie and call it gold. And yes, you WILL deny it, but it won't stop it from being the truth.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a movie that makes you think. What I am saying, however, is that anytime a movie comes out that is similar to Brick, A.K.A horrendous dialogue, wrongly-portrayed characters, and scenes shot at odd angles, there is always a group of a few hundred diehard fans that cling to it. It gives them the satisfaction of feeling like they've "discovered" something which needs to be protected, for they are the small group of "film pioneers", who have bravely taken it upon themselves to defend this "masterpiece."
it cracks me up that people choose to take your remarks seriously, when it's obvious that you love this film. oops, i mean this movie. i know you'll never publicly admit it, but you love feeling like a superior being by convincing others that you're not the elite film pioneer you truly are. and yes, you will deny it, but, given that you visited this message board two years ago (the title of your post,) again a year ago (the reference to the 5k word post,) and again a month ago, it's clear that you just can't stop thinking about how wonderful this film is. damn, i mean "movie." reality check: if a movie struck me as the worst ever, i would never feel the need to watch it again. but then, i guess that's because i'm too busy bashing the transformers... because i love it. because that's what smug snobs like you and i do, don't we?
Brick isn't good movie. Sure it tries, but it fails on so many levels. The OP is correct that certain people, in order to seem smart, end up conflating what a movie attempts to do with what it succeeds in doing. Brick doesn't succeed at intriguing the viewer (it does so at first, but that initial grip wanes after his encounter with his ex) and meanders without much focus. The story itself isn't that well thought out and the characters fail to develop in interesting directions. Plus, it's painfully obvious that this was shot on a very small budget. A small budget isn't necessarily a bad thing; often, indeed, it is a good thing, but in this case the story that this movie is trying to tell does not lend itself well to a lack of extras, a lack of varied settings with more mood and atmosphere. Brick does not rise above apprentice work in the way that Reservoir Dogs does, which is a relevantly similar example. Reservoir Dogs also was shot on a small budget and contains few characters, few settings...but it is able to weave a story that grips you and portrays characters that involve you.
Did I enjoy Brick because years from now I could publicly defend it on a forum? No, that would be preposterous. I enjoyed it because as the credits rolled, I clasped my hands together and thought, bloody hell, that was good. I got it.
Liking things for the sake of it is no more my business than it is yours to hate things for similar reasons in subvert.
If you want to decry elitism, I suggest you stop, because you're no better yourself.
Very telling how you whine about "smug pretentiousness" of elitist "film pioneers" and follow it up with idiotic, unfounded accusations that are reeking of the very "smug pretentiousness" you are railing against.
What's even more illuminating is how you've summarized Brick ("horrendous dialogue, wrongly-portrayed characters, and scenes shot at odd angles"), which really gives away the whole story about your inability to criticize on any meaningful, serious level.
You really had to think for this movie? It clearly shows how slow you really are.
You act as if, you need to be smart to understand this movie. You really do not. So stop acting as if you're some elite smart fella. You are obviously not.
It's a simple movie, don't try to make it more than it is. It doesn't work with people who are smarter than you.
You're hilarious. Don't insinuate you are smarter than people by derailing something they think is smart. It doesn't work on people that actually know what they're talking about.
You don't have to think for any movie.
And that's probably why you think this movie is simple, because you didn't, or can't think.
For young people, in their early twenties, this could cause appeal as someone said before, for its film-noir characteristics. To describe the point I'm trying to make, this genre of movie belongs to the 30's - 60's. So if you were a teenager in the 30's-60's and enjoyed film-noir movies, there is a possibility that you are a teenager in this day & age where these genre has been totally overlooked and forgotten, and really enjoy this style of movie. And since it's a contemporary movie, to me it was even better.
For example, I like soul music, but instead of listening to Marvin Gaye or Al Green, I prefer Robin Thicke and John Legend. All I'm saying is people might have actually enjoyed this film for it is a rare, unique thing to be found in today's movie industry.
I'm sorry I didn't express myself correctly. I was saying, teenagers or people in their early twenties (like me) enjoyed this genre back when it was common place. Maybe teenagers and people in their early twenties from today (people who are teenagers and in their early twenties at the time of my posting this) can genuinely enjoy this genre, in a more common, contemporary setting. People who are teens NOW, like at this moment, when you are reading this text.
Also, you're soooo funny!
"possibility that you are a teenager in this day & age where these genre has been totally overlooked and forgotten, and really enjoy this style of movie."
Pretty sure I was clear the first time. Go suck an elephant's d**k you idiot!
Relax, it was just a little joke, no need to get aggressive and unpleasant or to get animal genitals involved.
I kinda got what you were trying to say, but if we're being accurate, actually, no, you didn't formulate the thought clearly, but in a way that left it open to interpretation, as evidenced by the direct quote. Hence my ability to have a little fun with it.
I thought I was making a strong point and then you came and mocked me.
I think it's a cool movie, not at all "underground", pretty mainstream even, yes independent movie, but not at all too "pretentious". Bad ass main character, cool "noir" dialogue transposed to modern day, solid plot, good twist. All in all a good, good movie. I don't see why somebody who loved Transformers or The Avengers wouldn't like this movie when there are a lot of things to like about it. Oh, and I almost forgot the brilliant soundtrack.