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He's referring to the famous Roman teenage detective, Caius Prentionus, who lived during the reign of Emperor Hadrian, and solved many vexing cases during his brief career, including the "Mystery of the Viaduct Murders," "The Colloseum Conundrum," and, during a rare trip to the furthest reaches of the Empire, the enigma of "The Werewolf of Londinium."
It is widely speculated that he is the ancestor of the historical person on whom Sam Spade was based, but the location of his body was never discovered as he disappeared in Asia Minor while attempting to locate the the legendary statuette of the Ephesian Eagle. Consequently, DNA testing cannot be performed.
So, OP liked the film? Guess I shouldn't have been so hasty. Is the egg showing, or what?
Going station to station is hunky dory but if the trip's low on creeps it can drive Alladin Sane.
No egg showing. Caius Prentionus is not as well known as he was 40 or fifty years ago, when people were more familiar with history and spent more time with books. I'm not surprised that the reference escaped you. The OP must be well read indeed--as the eloquence of his post indicates--to be familiar with him.
shareI'm grateful for your pleasant demeanor, despite my ignorance. Too often, folks on these boards are quick to insult, rather than simply enlighten. As it turns out, I'm one of the worst offenders.
And to our humble OP, Teddy, I can only assume that your absence from these proceedings is borne from modesty. I appreciate your patience, and most of all, your insight.
Going station to station is hunky dory but if the trip's low on creeps it can drive Alladin Sane.
Via Google: "Your search - Caius Prentionus - did not match any documents."
I think The Good Doctor having a bit of fun with you, and I think the OP was stoned and tried to write "pretentious."
Ah, but the internet, including Google, only knows what's been put into it. As I indicated, C. Prentionus was never hugely famous, but he was a bit more well known back when people read more books. Anyone familiar with the Gesta Romanorum Minororum [Deeds of the Lesser Romans] by Taciturnus, son of the great Latin historian, Tacitus, would know of his adventures.
shareLMAO. This has got to be top ranked thread on imdb.
i can't believe people fell for it. hats off to you!
Don't act like you know more than The Good Doctor, Craig. He teaches at university.
And don't belittle Teddy's input. He'd show you he has knowledge to give if he wasn't burdened with the inability to word it properly.
Going station to station is hunky dory but if the trip's low on creeps it can drive Alladin Sane.
HAHAHAHAA Harvey obviously got trolled by Dr Zaat but the biggest troll of all is the OP. :D
shareWhy would you call me a troll? I'm merely expanding on what must have seemed a cryptic reference by the OP. Being familiar with the Gesta Romanorum Minororum, I recognized the OP's reference immediately, and thought I'd let the people here know what the OP was talking about.
It's a shame that Taciturnus's masterpiece has never been translated into English. I can read the original Latin, but to actually produce a translation would be more work than I care to undertake--certainly not for free. If some publisher were willing to offer me a deal, and some money upfront, I'd seriously consider the offer. Caius Prentionus's adventures deserve to be more widely known.
LMAO!!!
shareI regret to inform you that Prentionus is as real as Elder Nenharma, the Troll King of yore, as well as the very subject of your username. No worries, though; had it not been for the Good Doctor, I'd still be in the dark.
Going station to station is hunky dory but if the trip's low on creeps it can drive Alladin Sane.
lol...man you are an idiot if you fell for that.
shareBiggus Dickus,
you are an idiot if you fell for that
qualifying somebody as an idiot if he is one is not intolerance it is being honest.
shareI'm curious what one might call a person who is too dim to understand what's going on in this thread? Perhaps you have a suggestion, shurbanm, since you seem to fit that description.
sharenice try. better luck next time...
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shurbanm,
Thanks for joining the fun.
The world wouldn't be the same without you.
We all need a little enlightenment from time to time, and you've made your point.
Calling people idiots is just keepin' it real.
I'm reminded of a Dave Chappelle segment "When Keepin' it Real Goes Wrong".
Ah yes - the adventures of Caius Pretentious - and the Gesta Romanorum Minororum ! Many a happy night I have spent in the bowels of the British Library reading the only surviving copy .
The wonder of the semi autobiographical account of his exploits in Caledonia with the Picti or 'Painted People' and how he could only gain acceptance by enduring the 5 day total body tattooing ceremony of manhood or 'aaaarg'.
The Werewolf of Londinium incident , of whome the ancient Britons knew & feared in the North for millennia until a couple of drunken centurians 'strayed from the path' and got shipped back South with their strange injuries .
The OP has indeed shown great modesty & restraint .
That which does not Kill me makes me Stranger
It's a pleasure to encounter someone else familiar with the Deeds of the Lesser Romans, and specifically with Caius Prentionus. Yes, the two incidents to which you refer are indeed fascinating, but I can't help but be intrigued by Prentionus's final case, that of the Ephesian Eagle. Taciturnus has quoted from the notes which Caius left behind when he embarked on his journey to Ephesus, where he hoped to find clues pointing to who had stolen it from the famed Temple of Artemis, as well as where the thief may have headed with his spoils.
Unhappily, Prentionus went missing during his investigation and is rumored to have died somewhere near the borders of Cappadocia and Armenia, in the Taurus Mountains, under mysterious circumstances. It is this uncertainty, the unfinished character of the story, which captures one's imagination. How did C. Prentionus meet his end? Or, perhaps, he found something more precious than his original prize, and remained in this far-flung corner of the Empire, living out his life in happy and peaceful obscurity. We can only hope.
DrZaat. I salute you in the spirit of The Academy. Thou art a scholar!
shareThank you for the kind words, but we owe it all to the erudition of the OP, who was the first one to note the similarities between Brendan and Caius Prentionus. I'm gratified that the OP's cogent comment has brought some attention to this little known historical figure.
shareAnd, ironically, it is analyses and critiques of postmodernism, that is, critiques of ideology (for, today, postmodernism, as Jameson so presciently demonstrated some thirty years ago, is the cultural logic of contemporary pomo late capitalism), especially those that examine the structure of subjectivity (ie psychoanalytic theory) and how the subject structures symbolic spaces (cultural theory), that address these very issues.
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This is the best thing I've read here DrZaat, bravo!
I just recently ran across some documents connected with the Temple of Artemis and believed to be from the second century A.D. They indicate that "a young Roman" [whom I believe to have been Prentionus] "arrived in Ephesus, seeking to recover the Eagle."
It is reported that he encountered a group of shady characters who were forming their own expedition to hunt the Eagle, strictly for personal gain. A sycophantic Egyptian, a massive Germanic barbarian and his lackey, and a young woman from Hibernia, reputed to be a "dangerous beauty," accosted Prentionus, seeking to discover how much he had learned regarding the Eagle's whereabouts.
Sensing that they knew more than they were telling, Prentionus threw in with them in the hope that he might use them to recover the Eagle and return it to its rightful place in the Temple of Artemis. Prentionus was last seen departing the city in their company.
If indeed C. Prentionus did die in the Taurus Mountains, it is most likely that he did so due to the machinations of this cabal of thieves. However, there is some hope that he was able to exploit the greed of these ruffians and defeat them by turning them against one another. Unhappily, it is unlikely that we will ever know the truth.
This may be a late reply -- very late -- but there are some old records from a prison in Rome from around that time, coinciding with the disappearance of the Eagle, and a young Hibernian woman is mentioned in the prisoner lineup on counts of theft and murder. Whether this is the woman you mention, well, I'm not entirely sure, but it is a possibility.
Hope that helps. Cheers.
-fan of Prentionus
After reading about the remarkable Caius Prentionus here, I have done some deep, exhausting research (spending almost a whole thirty five minutes in the depths of the British Library!) and have discovered some new information regarding the last resting place of Caius.
There is, somewhere in Transylvania a shrine containing holy relics which consist of one eyebrow hair and one toenail. These relics are believed to be all that remain of our noble Caius. From what I could gather from the scraps of information available, he had been travelling on the road to Damascus, in furtherance of his quest for the missing Ephesian Eagle when a bright light surrounded him and he fell to his knees and instantly converted to Christianity. Immediately he felt called to share his new found religion on all and sundry, and for some reason decided Transylvania was in need of his ministry. Unfortunately the ungodly peasants took his latin as being the babbling of an idiot, or worse, a vampire, and they drove a stake through his heart, thus putting an untimely end to what had promised to be a long and worthy life in the cause of the Inquisition. Oh how are the mighty fallen! R.I.P. dear Caius. You will never be forgotten.
(Oh, regarding DNA testing, I'm afraid the villagers who tend to the shrine would never allow such holy relics to be tested.)
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lmfao. Love it.
shareThis post is so *beep* awesome :D
share"Mystery of the Viaduct Murders,"
I think that one was solved here:
https://youtu.be/kHMrLpDHXc0
Huh, turns out this thread wasn't as worthless as I originally thought.
Going station to station is hunky dory but if the trip's low on creeps it can drive Alladin Sane.
That has got to be the most overused word on this site!
shareI am sure that Dr Zaat is having a little Italian romance about Caius Prentionus as it is a well known lesser fact that Caius himself was a character in a series of tracts by Aristophanes, who in a byline as Kleo wrote about a case of missing retsina once owned by a friend. Apparently this chap claimed he did not drink the case of wine since upon lifting it to his lips it would take forever to reach his mouth due to some story about an arrow. Later he fell into a bath disturbing the bather who shouted 'Feck off, I've lost the soap somewhere in my mancave' when later he retrieved it, his best friend said 'you reeka you greeka'
Caius in a subsequent story untied the knot whereupon Alex the anti hero sliced his head off for being a pre-empting bastard.
This has got to be the most amazing IMDB thread that hasn't been deleted yet.
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You did THIS with a toaster?
There's nothing pretentious about trying to make a film in a unique way to try and separate your work from herd. I like that Johnson didn't try and pander to lesser minds to try and please everyone. He probably knew this movie wouldn't be for everyone, but it was the movie he wanted to make.
shareIndeed DrZaat is making a remarkable case for the legacy of Caius Prentionus. I would just like to add that Prentionus the Amiable is truly a character worth noting in the annals of history. Once during my brief travels of Italy I coincidentally stumbled upon an intriguing mosaic in the once ancient Roman capital of Ravenna. The main character of the mosaic, Prentionus, is worth noting as his presence in the mosaic indicates that Prentionus' impact on Roman life well lasted for a few centuries as this mosaic was to have been dated around 430 AD.
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Haha, he misspelled "pretentious"... wait what? OOooh, Prentionus! I love those books. Truly masterpieces, exceeded in their auspiciousness only by the extent to which they totally exist. Read them today. I want to thank the OP for spreading the word.
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Yeesh, I googled "prentionus", and it just asked me "Did you mean PRETENTIOUS"? As if I can't spell or something. Caius Prentionus is clearly an under-appreciated historical and literary figure.
sharethe posse of sheeple pretending to panegyrise this precocious panhandler is just preposterous. perhaps a parsimonious pensioner or a percolating parishioner could penetrate this precipitous, perplexing, preternatural performance and postulate a permeable presentation pandering purple pocket penchant?
shareAnyone familiar with the Gesta Romanorum Minororum [Deeds of the Lesser Romans]
Well, my motto is:
Illegitimi non carborundum
In addition, the generation to which Taciturnus belonged betrayed a significant drop in literacy compared to their forebears. We often see, in surviving texts, the complaint, "Quid erit in generationem istam?"--"What will come of these kids?" The decline in language skills noted by soSagtDieHex was likely furthered by the fascination of Taciturnus's generation with a newly-developed form of rapid communication--"ieiunium partus equis"--"fast horse delivery," commonly known as "partus equis," or "partus-e" which might be translated as "h-mail."
This rapid communication system, of which the youth were enamored, tended to promote a lack of concern for stylistic, grammatic, and syntactic standards, sacrificing these in the haste to post messages, so that the writing was certainly below par. Taciturnus carried this fashion over into his major work, Gesta Romanorum Minoroum, hence the obvious grammatical error in the title, which the above poster pointed out.
I am sure one can think of analogous circumstances in more recent times which have resulted in a similar degradation of language skills.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Je ne sais pas. Je suis sans faute.
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I think the OP meant Pretendshus. Like wot people wot fink they are better than ovars fink.
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