I have to admit that when I first started watching this film, I was like many other posters who thought this movie was unrealistic. High School kids simply don't act this way! However, I soon realized that this was all intentional. The characters could easily have been fully grown adults but by making them high school students the movie is poking fun at film noir genre conventions. I'm baffled that so many of the posters here didn't pick up on this. Perhaps if the characters were younger, like ten years old or so, then the joke would have been more obvious...
I picked up on what it was doing almost immediately. And I knew absolutely nothing about the movie before seeing it. I thought it was an interesting "genre transplant" type of film. The only thing being that the story was a little hard to follow in places because of the style of dialogue that tends to be used with those stories.
I think it would be funny if someone did the opposite and told the tale of an angsty teen drama, but the parts were played by people dressed like pulp fiction gangsters.
Both your contention and the OP contention can be right. It's just a piece of art. What the artist "intended" for it to be is irrelevant. It is how you interpret it. If Leonardo Da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa and told you - "I intended this as a self portrait" would you go with what he told you he intended or what you perceive the painting to be?
Not a satire, but a deconstruction. The writer / director, Rian Johnson, says in the commentary track that his original intent was to simply to find a new set of visual cues for film noir, so that people would be forced to treat it as fresh rather than overly familiar. He sort of implies that he wasn't thinking of that as a deconstruction ... but it is.
The only reason we don't treat the dialogue conventions of film noir as artificial and unrealistic is because we are used to them. This movie reminds us that they are artificial, unrealistic ... and still awesomely cool. The same is true to an only slightly lesser degree of the complications of the plot.
Another of the artifices of film noir is that the criminals are much more interesting and attractive than in reality -- especially the femme fatale -- and in a real high school the drug-dealing culture would be immensely less interesting than it is here. Again, a heightened reality in film that is much more interesting than real life. Brick forces us to recognize these conventions for what they are and appreciate the genius of those who originated him (especially Dashiell Hammett).
The other really cool thing is that the emotional conflicts and mixed feelings of a character like Laura (does she have feelings for Brandon or not?) absolutely mirror those of a high school student, but they would be complicated by trivial teen stuff, not adulterated bricks of heroin. So the movie does not ring untrue emotionally to the high school experience; it just transmutes it into this other reality.
Prepare your minds for a new scale of physical, scientific values, gentlemen.
it actually does ring true in a number of ways, heavily real emotional film with brilliant acting and fairly meaningful teenage themes (isolation, unwanted pregnancy, drugs etc), but emvan you have a lot of good points, it was something of a deconstruction of the genre but also showed a lot of love to it.
yes but so what? that doesn't make it any better. i'd like it even if it weren't a spoof on film noir. actually most movies like that are crap. can name a lot.
It's not a satire. Satire is intended to ridicule something (individuals, fashion, elements of culture, politics etc). There is no element of ridicule here.
I thought it was pretty obvious... the style of the film alone (acting, dialogue, etc) should have been enough to realize it wasn't going to be a 100% realistic movie.
But yeah like said, it's not a satire but has satirical elements.