Were the script writers on drugs?

This is called a television show. It's categorized as FICTION.
Get a grip.

I just finished the show for the first time and found it very compelling. I binged it on Nflix.

That said, your points are valid and crack me up. That's what I thought about Alana implanting memories.

What about Maia's parents?

i came across this show on Netflix and decided to re-watch it since i loved it from before but... i was a lot younger then and was mostly just into the characters having super powers and the action involved and not really focused on every detail. i watched the 6 episodes of season 1 and it was good just like before but i was kinda baffled at some of the flaws and things i thought were inconstant or just flat out didn't add up.

the first thing was the Danny,Nikki and Shawn love triangle.obviously Nikki was the hot talk of high school boys even though she was 14, Kyle and Shawn were talking about her right before Shawn was taken. later on Nikki says they were friends but Shawn kept reminding her of her age and also acted as if he didn't really know her, so if he could see with his own eyes that she was definitely with his brother and definitely having sex with his brother, why would Shawn date her and have sex with her after she had broken up with his brother a day or two before?(really gross) He had been gone 3 years and now was the same age as his little brother so why did he think getting with Nikki was a better priority over getting back his relation with his little brother?

Shawn also went to the beach and had a flashback about what happened the night he was taken, why didn't he let his uncle know what happened? Tom learned about it through "kyle" at the beach scene. that means that more of the returned could have had these types of flashbacks if they went back to the original place they were taken.

"kyle" not being Kyle, so Kyle came back when Shawn touched him but he wasnt the real Kyle. days go by with "kyle" acting like a weirdo drawing maps and sitting in the sprinklers naked at night. at what point do the parents take him to the hospital or back to ntac for help? his parents drew it out for awhile before actually taking him back to his doctor.

Tom is not honest with his work or his partner, why is this allowed? i know he does not want Shawn to be questioned or under any extra quarantine but then he throws Shawn under the bus when they take his son from the hospital and quarantine him, the first thing he yells to his boss is why didn't they take Shawn(Really??)

Maia would be a ward of the state, why is she allowed to live with Diana? that would be a major conflict of interest and i don't think that would be allowed in any US state.

Tom thinks people will follow his wife Linda while she is traveling to their secret meet up place but they discuss the plan in their house out loud as if the new guy hasn't had his house bugged.

its also weird that Tom talked with "kyle" at the beach while they were in the open portal "channel" but never asked the guy inside of "kyle" what his name was or could anyone in the future use "kyle" to communicate whenever they felt like it.instead he asked very simple, very general questions so "kyle" gave him very simple, general answers.this was really not the time to have a brain fart, this was the time to grill him for serious answers.

if the 4400 were abducted to help humanity from dying out in the future(*vomit*,really?)why did these future people spend time altering the timeline and altering the abductees only to replace them in an altered timeline which would change the original timeline but create a new loop of unknown paths which could have destroyed humanity sooner? And if you can alter the timeline why go back in time and abduct people to alter time when the science used to do it could have been used in alternative ways to prevent humanity from dying out? is the issue here about changing the timeline for humanity or is the issue that these people in the future are extra dumber than we are now?

Jordan obviously knew his purpose(how?) because he immediately began taking steps to trap Lily and Richard so that he could gain access to the baby.


Richard was in love with Lily's grandmother and was going to marry her before the abduction, why is it ok to start a relationship with the granddaughter after?eww.

i was most amused by the scene with "kyle" and Tom on the beach where he had all the time needed to find some core answers to what is going on with the 4400 and he seemed to be having a brain freeze lol

My two major problems, which happen to be central to the entire story of the show, is Maia's predictions and the very concept of promicin itself.

Noone appears to realize, not ever even fleetingly mentioning, that about half of Maia's predictions turn out to be self-fulfilling prophecies. Maia's predictions are the sole cause leading to an effect, the predicted events. Her predictions essentially create the events rather than predict them. This is often made clear by the fact that absent her predictions nothing would have happened.

Predictions are particularly problematic in a single timeline, and the very concept of a precog makes almost zero sense, because the very knowledge of a predicted event can either make you avoid it or, more often, cause the event to happen (self-fulfilling prophecy). Not to mention the ridiculous notion that something has to happen that way, just because Maia "predicted" it, throwing out the entire concept of free will out of the window. Yet there doesn't appear to exist even a tiny trace of common sense among the characters over the glaring obviousness of the events happening solely because Maia predicted them.

A classic example of self-fulfilling prophecy, illustrating the problem with precogs : Say that Maia was a famous precog all around America, and just about everyone believed in her predictions. One day she predicts that Wall Street will lose 2,000 points the following day, and that prediction makes the news. When Wall Street opens the next morning, everyone starts selling, Wall Street crashes, and the crash stops at about -2,000 points, at which point people stop selling because that's how much Maia "predicted" the stocks will fall. Did Wall Street crash because Maia predicted it or because the prediction made the news? Well, it's the latter of course. I think even if that had happened in the show noone would have made the obvious connection, and they would still believe that Wall Street crashed just because Maia said it will ("said it will" rather than "predicted", being the key difference here). Because Maia is never wrong, right?

By and large, the complete lack of common sense and utter silence over various time traveling related issues in the show is deafening. Promicin, and thus all the extra-human abilities, is the single biggest problem of the show. Promicin turns out to be a huge predestination paradox. The future humans sent promicin to the past, thus leading to the future humans sending promicin to the past, thus leading etc etc But when/how was promicin originally developed and made?

Well, actually never. That's a textbook definition of a predestination paradox, with one other famous example being the Terminator CPU (yes, if you closely follow the timeline, Skynet was really created out of nowhere). Whenever you steal information, tech, art etc from the future you end up with a predestination paradox.

Say you discover a time machine and you are an aspiring writer (or artist, CPU designer, movie maker etc). You travel 20 years into the future to get your future work and bring it to your present. That's fine and dandy, you were spared of all the hard work of 20 years in one bunch, right? But where all this art or tech came from? Don't you originally need to write the novel, design and fab your CPU or direct your movie in order for them to exist? The same applies to promicin, and thus all the abilities. They were all conjured out of thin air, literally.

Fanboy : a person who does not think while watching.