About Korean War


hello there. For those who don't have a slight knowledge of the war, I'll state some with very little detail. Ask me any question about each item and I'll answer them(i'm korean btw).

1. 1910-1945 Japanese Annexation. For 5 years, korean peninsula had no formal political government. (political groups by geographical regions) Tension between Soviet Union and United States.
2. 1950 June 25th, North Korea invades South Korea with massive army(non-chinese)
3. South Korean army loses Seoul(Capitol) and was forced to pull back. Over just few days, SK loses most of the peninsula.
4. U.S. military forces come to aid the South while Russia and China had support for North. (Russia stayed pretty much neurtal at the time except the supply of war to allow the U.S. advance) Truman sends 7th fleet to Taiwan
5. under general MacArthur's command, marines successfully landed in Incheon(next to Seoul) and cut off their troops.
6. SK army and US army advances up to almost 90% of the korean peninsula.
7. About 300,000 soldiers from China come to aid the north.
8. South pulls back and sets major defense line up by Seoul. Intense battle for 2 years without anyone advancing.
9. Soviet Unions watches over as U.S. army weakens.(don't know much about Cold war)
10. 38th parallel created after the endless battles. About 1,858,000 to 3,822,000 NK and chinese soldiers dead. 54,000 US soldiers dead, 1,271,244 SK soldiers dead.

Total Countries that were involved in the war

South Korea, USA, Britain, Canada, Philippines, Turkey, Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Ethiopia, Greece, France, Colombia, Belgium, South Africa, and Luxembourg. - War power : 941,356–1,139,518
Soviet Union, China,and North Korea. - War power : 1,066,000

To sum this up, Korean War did not officially end. Many people say it was U.S. and Soviet Union's pre-war. Use of nuclear weapon was one of general MacArthur's option which WashingtonDC did not allow. Most chinese people think China won the war. Thousands of Korean innocent civilians killed by UN. Korean War veterans are now over 70 years old and 1000 are dying per month.

Basically, Korean peninsula is like a ticking bomb that could go off at any moment especially with all the tension in the north. Currently, another war is not an option for U.S. or SK(because of the effect it will have on world economy). Only diplomatic negotiation needs to be done.

other good Korean war movies: Joint Security Area (JSA)

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well the history of Kim Jung il regime has proven that he is in fact mentally ill.
North Korea has isolated themselves from the outside world and their government propaganda has brain washed the citizens. This is not a case where Iraqi civilians were very unhappy with their dictator, this is a case where starved people actually praise their dictator for their suffering. Nobody knows if Kim Jung il will take an action with his nukes and he's very unpredictable person due to his "illness." But I doubt US would use their nuke against N.Korea for countless reasons.

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If NK nukes the US, then im pretty sure the US will nuke NK. Which is understandable.

Stira

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well, there is no way NK can nuke US with all the ICBM(anti missle defense) if it works that is...

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He will not nuke or attempt to nuke the US. Atleast the continental US. His hostage is S. Korea. Seoul to be exact. Wether the US attacks the DPRK or they lead an offensive, Seoul will be in the middle of it all and suffer mass destruction. Why would Kim Jong Il send one or two small nukes to Alaska, when most of his artillery is lined up and the DMZ, pointing at Seoul. Oh, and not to mention, Yongsan Army Garrison is there in Seoul too.

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omg your like a freakin chicken buying stock in KFC.

without a US military base in s. korea there wouldn't be any conflict. as in the middle east and everywhere else the "empire" IS the source of all conflict.

fear mongering propaganda for consumption by the weak of mind, heart, and character. "oh yeah, your left hand is out to git ya. yep now please pay us to keep our strategic interests in your "soveriegn" nation."

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Damn Iggy, you are one funny guy. Have you tried standup comedy? Cuz I can't stop laughing ^^

This is made even humorous by the fact that lot of people on this forum seems to suffering from some sort of irony deficiency disorder....

Man this is like Muslim extremists been outraged that the pope linked Islam with violence and then started firebombing churches in protest lol.

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"without a US military base in s. korea there wouldn't be any conflict. as in the middle east and everywhere else the "empire" IS the source of all conflict."

How very moronic. It is this type of thinking that had Pres.Carter wanting to remove US troops from SK during the 70's against everyone else's wishes. Even the SK President gave Carter an impassioned speech (to Carter's ire) on why they needed the US military presence to buffer against any NK hostility. The NK, on the other hand, praised Carter for being progressive.

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Thank you Robotext!!

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Your thought on the subject makes you a complete ignoramus. If there wasn't a US military base in SK, there wouldn't be SK anymore, it'd be the peninsula of NK.
The US fought NK because it was an ally of SK! NK was beating the *beep* out of SK, if US wasn't there, we wouldn't even think too much on what SK was prior to it being obliterated.

In the middle east, the US isn't the source of conflict there literally. There was already conflict there for years and years. US just intervened on an already fighting conflict.

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Nuking/attacking NK nuclear plant will mean a massive ammount of deaths in Korea, China and/or Japan. Noone would risk attaking/nuking NK.

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I did nuke a big Fart yesterday...

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NK's missiles don't even have the range to threaten Beijing, let alone US soil.

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Whether Kim Jong-il is mentally ill or not, it is also well known that he is not a stupid man, so while I think he doesn't have a leg to stand on, he's probably someone that should be treated with a certain amount of respect because of his. The idea that Nuclear war will break out would be a ridiculous idea though. It is in the USA's best interest economically speaking for Korea and the rest of the region to remain stable.

What I want to know is, what happens when Kim Jong-Il dies? He took over from his father, Kim il-sung, but does Jong-il have a son, or what?

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I'd like to second that. As a dictator, he's kind of doing his job "right". Without isolation, he couldn't keep his regime up. Most of his actions and his cruelty make perfect sense from a unemotional dictatorian point of view.
Btw.: He has at least 4 children (there are rumours saying he has much more). His eldest son is Kim Jong-nam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-nam

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iggy hates spam, i know you are one the Japanese "korean movie" bashers and I can go all day about Japanese. So please act more like a human being than a brainwashed unemployeed jap who's taught by the government's distorted history books and promotion of pedophilism. Thank you

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yeah , you japanese dont got the f ucking balls to admit ur own mistakes.. have to fabricate your own *beep* fantasy story and hide behind it. at least we koreans know how to admit and move on from our mistakes.

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where you make up stuff like this is beyond me. but given your rather sophomoric summary of history, it's not that much a mystery.

why on earth would a japanese "korean movie" basher possibly advocate korean unity. a united korea is the absolute last thing a right wing japanese would want. in fact we are completely alone on this. there isn't any other country that would see a unified korea in their interests and every country has been actively working to keep the status quo.

i'm not japanese and you are an angry lil monkey.

omg it actually hurts to look into your ugly transparant mind.

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then I assume you are another angry lil *beep* You communists are just mad over the life quality we offer in S.Korea. I guess trolling on the forum is better than stealing more music,DVDs,cloth, and electronics. I hear almost everything is fake in China or hong kong...Is that true? yes it is ;)
We are "angry lil monkey"? who came to the forum and started showing some anger? lol
Also, your communist country has so many secrets behind their a$$ that even UN can't do anything about it. Well...you gotta reduce the useless population you know. have a good life in China my friend

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how you can characterize korean unity as "angry" is beyond reason. but based on the the similar posts that has nothing to do with anything but short minded racism, i'm inclined to believe all these posts are just one person posting the same sort of hate filled rhetoric under different accounts.

the idiocy of a s. korean screaming insults at n. koreans on a forum about a movie that shows the idiocy of koreans killing each other over foreign ideas is the sort of irony that i simply cannot appreciate. obviously, neither can you all be it for a completely different reason.

angry? disgusted is a better word.

you make a perfect pet monkey. your owners must be proud. i hope they feed you well. otherwise it would just be pathetic.

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"how you can characterize korean unity as "angry" is beyond reason. but based on the the similar posts that has nothing to do with anything but short minded racism, i'm inclined to believe all these posts are just one person posting the same sort of hate filled rhetoric under different accounts."

I'm stunned by your intellectual level.

"the idiocy of a s. korean screaming insults at n. koreans on a forum about a movie that shows the idiocy of koreans killing each other over foreign ideas is the sort of irony that i simply cannot appreciate. obviously, neither can you all be it for a completely different reason."

S.Korea never threw any insult at N.Korea ever since the war. But we blamed Chinese and their worthless communism. We didn't fight the war to kill N.koreans, we fought the war to destroy communism.

"you make a perfect pet monkey. your owners must be proud. i hope they feed you well. otherwise it would just be pathetic.?"

you keep using that phrase, did that ever work to insult someone? cause I find it humorous.

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can anyone clear up for me who were flag unit... i watched this film and loved it but not knowing much of the korean war i was wondering who were they? fanatics maybe?

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The red flag guys? That was the Chinese army.

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man, a few weeks ago there were these sirens going off for the longest time, i thought n. korea was attacking (it was shortly after n. korea nuke test). i was freaking scared out of my mind, but turns out it was just a war scenario test, thank God.

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how s. koreans STILL think n. koreans wanna kill them is a testament to the sophistication of modern propaganda.

either that or sheer stupidity..

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iggy. just shut up. where are you from? Are you any position to comment on and fully understand the Korean mentality. You think there are no North Koreans that want to kill south Koreans? they certainly don't hate Koreans, but they hate capitalism i'm sure many do because of propaganda...
Some of your earlier comments are just stupid. You rant at people for arguing over the net, yet you still keep posting. You obviously have no care to point out facts or state your argument rationally. You just want to to be right.

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no i really think that N.Korea will nuke US. This president is a madman seriously. how could he BRAINWASH these innocent people. im korean and i sometimes see the korean news. these little kindergardeners are bowing down to a picture of the president and says that he's the greatest. there's no such thing as a "GOD" in North Korea. the only "god" is him! he won't let anyone in north korea get OUT of there. it's like a horrible terrible prison. it really sucks because my grandmother's sister is still stuck there because of the korean war. my grandmother got out of north korea but her sister and brother didn't. i hate the north korea president. he malnourishes them, and i feel so bad for them. also it's a law to have a picture of the president in every household there. the president deserves to die and go to hell. but his son the next president i heard is WORSE. i wish i could take all those people out of north korea.

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Hey iggy, clear something up for me y don't ya.... Is your post in response to the movie? Really? "lil monkies"? Why did you even watch the movie?

What do you know about wars? Have you fought in one? "Fabricated Enemy"? If a war broke out here in the states, where I live, I often wonder about how I would react to a situation where I have no say what so ever. How would you react if and when you are drafed? I wonder, you seemingly brave soul.

You mock yourself.

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Sorry but your info is very inaccurate and mostly-just plain dumb.
It is 100% certain you got your number infos from Wikipedia, and also on wikipedia it says that NK and Chinese casualties ranges from 1,858,000 to 3,822,000 (which is very inaccurate). Casualties means wounded, missing, dead, injured. But your in info, you claimed that the communist suffered up to 3.8 million soldiers K.I.A., that info (your info) is totally laugh-able.

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who cares how many people died anyway - the fact is a lot of people (millions) died, that's all that matters. Numbers are never completely accurate. this is just ridiculous.

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"About 1,858,000 to 3,822,000 NK and chinese soldiers dead (...) 1,271,244 SK soldiers dead."

No, unless you counted civilians.

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