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this has american war-film school writen all over it...

posted 18 years ago by neamtzu_rau
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you got the idylic scene at the river, lotts of water,the entire familly's there, everybody's happy, all wear white, ah! the purity of it all !

Then you got the brothers reunion on the battlefield , piano, glorioso arpegio (music scores resemble Band of Brothers so much), the crying, the b itchin, the "you gotta come with me bro, so you will live" type of dialogue, the war is a bad-thing message that's right stuffed into your face, artillery bombardment, blood on the camera.

None of this was original. I could watch very well Saving Private Ryan, it had brothers, it had emotion , it also packed action whitout the teary, sob-sob , dehumanisation type of tapestry.

War is bad, I know that. Show some guy who's ok with it, for a change. Like Ryan was.Figthing for your country, doing something that's honourable, that's all that matters.

stupid a ss movie...

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[–] uw_4u 18 years ago

"Figthing for your country, doing something that's honourable"
Indoctrination for the win. Fighting for your country isn't honorable. Fighting for a cause is.

[–] neamtzu_rau 18 years ago

Fighting for your country isn't honorable. Fighting for a cause is.

Like HUH ?!

What if the your country is the cause ?

You make no sense.

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[–] overninethousand 18 years ago

Learn to spell.

[–] neamtzu_rau 18 years ago

Learn to suck.

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[–] sildude 18 years ago

oo nice comeback there

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[–] jay_c_wannabe 18 years ago

im korean i believe the sound is more like shhiii which makes the translation to a swear word more understandable (notice similarities between shii and shiit for the more dim witted) and we're taught really not to say that and it's disrespectful to do so in front of elders
regarding fighting for your country is honourable, yeh it is honourable etc and patriotism IS a quality worth your weight in gold, but you also have to accept that the soldiers were drafted into the korean war and most people wouldn't have seen combat with guns ever before and they wouldn't necessarily all have that "honourable" quality

[–] taibunsuu-1 18 years ago

I didn't see this film as an indoctrination of anything except the tragedy that the brothers had to live through and the horrors of war. There were no great moments of battlefield glory or BS about bulletproof supermen fighting for their ideology. It showed the good and bad on both sides and what guys have to go through when they are sucked up into a situation they can't control. Keep in mind these were draftees fighting on their own homeland, it's not like they could dodge service, or do anything but make a choice between serve and fight or run off and hide. Bottom line is they were trying to survive.

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[–] heroide 18 years ago

I totally agree with your review. This movie is about humanity, not about doctrination, patriotism or heroism.

[–] hanbit31793 18 years ago

The reason I loved this movie was due to the fact it wasn't a nationalist movie like most Jap or american movies are. It showed that South Korea indeed did many bad things also which concludes into a war crime. This movie shows not one side but how the entire war went by the Korean view.

[–] andy610 18 years ago

Thanks OP.

Reading your posts have made me feel a lot better about myself.

[–] Kinematico 16 years ago

I totally agree with your review. This movie is about humanity, not about doctrination, patriotism or heroism.

Just my words. I have no idea what was smoking the OP when he made that ridiculous statement.
This movie UNLIKE 99% of Hollywood flicks is NOT about GOOD guys vs BAD guys. Neither about patriotism, chauvinism or heroism. This movie, among other things, is about some common fellows sent to a war against their will. It's also about how the war can transform the most decent people into savage beasts.

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[–] cpuller-642-329716 14 years ago

Sure this film was inspired very much by saving private ryan, it starts with the music and parts of the plot with the old man and even some gore effects.
(blood spraying on the camera lens I think was in private ryan too).
This was done so the film will be a succes financially and I think the effects etc are very good for probably a lot less money than US films.

But it also can be more interesting than priv ryan with koreas history, good guys turning into bad guys you wont find that in a US movie too often.

Also I see the brother thing as a metaphor, the korean war is often referred to as a war between brothers.
This makes you able to overlook some weaker parts in the plot.

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