I hated the son.


The son was such an awful bratty teenager throughout the entire movie. He insulted Dan constantly, even in front of the villains, and when Dan died in his arms at the end, the son sure didn't seem very sad about it. Didn't shed a tear or anything. Took the whole thing rather well, actually.

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The whole of which makes it jarringly unbelievable for the time period depicted.

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What an ignorant comment.

You need to read more.

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And such an even surpassingly ignorant response.

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The son was such an awful bratty teenager throughout the entire movie.
That's not true at all. You need to watch the film more closely.

We see William portrayed as you describe at the beginning of the film and you forgot to mention how star-struck he is, in the presence of Ben Wade.

One of the things that makes this movie impressive IMO, is the development of both lead and supporting characters through the course of the narrative. This includes seeing William grow up quite a degree.

Yes for much of the time he doesn't rate his dad highly, when compared to Wade.

From the time he catches up with the "posse" in the desert and "saves" them from Wade, his perspective changes. He sees how Wade treats others' lives so cheaply and this gradually dampens his admiration for him, whilst he notes his father is the only one in the group, who consistently fails to be intimidated by Wade.

By the time the climax arrives he realises that Wade admires his father, the way he used to admire Wade himself and he is almost prepared to take retribution against Ben, though he realises this is not how Dan would wish him to behave.
... Took the whole thing rather well, actually.
Simply not the case. Watch again.🐭


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Nice interpretation, spookyrat1. I fully agree.

In my opinion, Logan Lerman's performance is first rate - right up there with Russell Crowe's and Christian Bale's. As a matter of fact, I cherish the performances (including the supporting cast) much more than the plotting and story-telling of this Western.

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Teens can be like that

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The teens lack of rational thought was portrayed to the audience as a way to make his dad look weak, that's what's wrong, Bale was being rational the whole time, the son was an ignorant teen completely unaware of any repercussions, that's how he should have been portrayed, not manipulate the audience into seeing Bale in a negative light because the idiot son rolled his eyes at him a couple times.

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Personally, I think William looked down on his father for the way they lived and how he felt his father wouldn't do anything for his family. HOWEVER, this changes dramatically when Dan says "What did Doc Potter give his life for William?" Once Dan chose to take Ben Wade to the station on his own, William started to realize how much he truely respects and cares for his father. That scene was the most emotional scene in the movie and a father/son moment that has so much compassion and understanding. And not just for Dan and his son, but for Ben Wade as well.

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