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Ending was a liberal fantasy to a PC revisionist west.

posted 11 years ago by Zellio2014
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Incompetent lawmen, boneheaded actions, people trying to make the bad guy feel for what he's done... This entire movie is a product of somebody whose lived in a nice neighborhood all of their lives.

The ending seems to me like the ultimate liberal fantasy... Even if you are an incompetent coward who abandons his post, goes around trying to make bad guys who kill people have feelings (And probably wishes the woman was doing this instead of you), if you fail and the bad guy gets your gun, he'll suddenly feel like helping you AND shooting his own men!

Because oh yes! I am a bad guy who, with my friends, goes around killing people and stealing money! But because I heard such a enlightening tale of woe, about an incompetent dad who abandons his posts and his kids hate him, my life is changed! Even though I've killed other people with my friends, I'll go and kill them, because incompetent idiot dad is my bestest friend!

Who cares how long I've been friends with these guys, who cares about all the times we've had? Peace man, hug a tree, who cares about logic, I'm overburdened with thoughts of an incompetent dad!

Um no, I'm afraid not. The bad guy would've laughed and shot the guy. Thank god the actual wild west didn't have lawmen who followed this tripe.

[–] mgtbltp 11 years ago

Yep it was a pretty stupid excuse for a Western

[–] mobstar1967 11 years ago

Yeah 2007 was a great year for PC Hollywood cinema
More anti war films in that year than the previous decade..,
Liberal ideology ruining some good movies
Sad

[–] jimmyr5595 11 years ago

It's because it's not a realistic depiction of the west. No western is. The character of Ben Wade in this universe was a very conflicted one. Things almost went HIS way in the end. He grew to like and respect Dan a lot, so he wanted to be captured, and when his men shot Dan, he reacted impulsively. I found his character to be very complex and interesting.

[–] mgtbltp 11 years ago

get a pair.

[–] colbyman21 11 years ago

I agree. Don't forget Wade legitimately asks the girl from the saloon earlier to run away with him. I think he had generally grown tired of that life.

I doubt he needs money anymore and he is intellectually on a different level than the rest of his group with his appreciate of art and nature and the world around him.

It wasn't that he had agreed to kill his posse because he respected Dan and that was his plan. His plan was simply to allow Dan to collect his reward and be a hero to his children. The respect he gained after seeing Dan complete this journey and always keep his moral compass incorruptible sparked that.

Having that taken away and seeing this band of bastards and lowlife's kill Dan just caused him to snap. I don't think he had any intention of killing them until that moment he was just going to let Dan save face and escape the train or prison later.

He's a very complex and well crafted character. I love the way Crowe handled that role

[–] romefan123 10 years ago

Easy to see it both ways, but ^^^this^^^ sums it up for me too. Good debate.

"You can just stand there, ... and let him kick your ass!"
--Sensei Terry Silver Karate Kid III

[–] Gordon_Gartrelle 10 years ago

Because oh yes! I am a bad guy who, with my friends, goes around killing people and stealing money! But because I heard such a enlightening tale of woe, about an incompetent dad who abandons his posts and his kids hate him, my life is changed! Even though I've killed other people with my friends, I'll go and kill them, because incompetent idiot dad is my bestest friend!

I loved that movie up until that point.
The acting was great.

I remember thinking, at that scene, oh this is the point in the movie when the son becomes the main character as he avenges his father death.

I don't let anyone hot-comb out my HAIRitage!

[–] Conagher_1880 8 years ago

Glenn Ford's Wade and Heflin's Evans would have wiped the floor with Crowe and Bale's characters. Jaeckel's Prince was also a tougher man than Wade's, although Wade's Prince was a legit psycho.

The original was better in all ways: Tighter story, better cast...even the costuming was better. In the remake, no one looked even 19th Century, let alone western!

"It's a hard country, kid."