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I loved this movie but... (SPOILERS!)


I think the ending was a slight cop out. Making Kimberly show remorse at her actions kinda softened all that had gone before. She should've been a hard faced bitch right up until the end credits rolled.

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I agree with you 100%...I absolutely adored this movie throughout, ready to give it an A. But then, at the last FIVE SECONDS...the ending just killed it. It was still a great movie, so I gave it a B+, but honestly, when you have such a wickedly sociopathic villainness, it's never fun to make her feel remorse.

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I dont agree. For one thing, the call with her mom earlier indicated she had actual feelings, so it's not like this was the first part. (And it's not like the violin scene didnt hint at some either) Second of all, she is an actual person, I mean, it was a charicature (sp?) of real life, but if the characters are all so far from actual humans what's the point? I mean, no one can do such terrible things and not either a) break down at some point, even if it is in a totally private position and then come out guns blazing again or b) be legit insane. In this case "a" and we dont know what she did next, but I dont think we were to assume she changed her ways. If anything her humanity in this part allowed us to see that darkness is in all of us somewhere

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I liked that it didn't do what I expected. Kimberly wasn't a "fun" born-evil sociopath. I didn't read it as satirizing teen girls, but satirizing all of society for encouraging and rewarding sociopathic behaviour (see Martin Stivers). Kimberly was smart enough to realize this and use it to get what she wanted, but when she got it--it didn't make her happy.

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hmm I thought she was crying because despite all that she had done she still hadn't gotten what she wanted in that she did not get the role on that television show unless of course that was hard but lately i'm having trouble seeing clearly but consider that Her brother was "Avenged" in her eyes and her ex was punished as well because he had to give up what he thought was a perfect girl so i dunno and I think that really she felt kindof a bond with the Shooter from the other school because to her people are all just Ducks in a row waiting to be taken out and only he seemed to understand her.

But either way I enjoyed to film

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I gathered that she was crying from watching that show, because she started crying when the chick did that dance which I think is what she was doing right before Trey broke up with her, and it just brought back that memory of him calling her a whore and breaking her heart so to speak.

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Ah ok I didn't realize. I saw it for the first time last night. I guess it really didn't look like her to me, but I was still getting ust to Evan Rachel Wood being a brunette eventhough it's a better look. I thought the ending was very fitting. She was an evil genius and quite masterfull. If she ended up like getting back together with that guy in the end though then it would have lost some credibility for me. However that's not what happened she just ruined lifes. And aside from that girl killing herself which she didn't even intend to happen and Kimberly being a giant whore she was brilliant.

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Urr... that chick was her in the tv show she auditioned for at the beginning.She cried because of the superficiality of her role as a piece of fluff.She is crying because she was a victim.

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Yea, but it was a great film, sexy as heck, Oh Boy, really really sexy. I reckon there will be a follow up

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look closer at the last scene in the movie: in close up, evan is framed by the red shower curtain over her right shoulder and the white shirts in the closet over her left shoulder. this is a reference to the angel and devil influences at war within her. each side held equal space in the frame, which communicates her unchanged attitude. the crying exhibited is pity for herself. she has no sympathy or remorse towards the grief and sorrow she caused others. to do so would be untrue to her character. in some ways, the utter self-absorption displayed was ever eerier than a "hard faced bitch" ending would have been.

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Well said.

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I know -- it was a cop-out. Fact is that there are people like Kimberly who do this kind of stuff every day, without remorse. Her final speech to Brittany scared the hell out of me, realizing just what a psycho she was -- you almost expect the theme from Halloween or The Exorcist to start playing...

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The thing with sociopaths is, they can feign remorse so well you wouldn't even know they're completely devoid of it. Who's to say that even in the end, even when everyone was gone, she wasn't just practicing for her next big role? I agree that she showed some sort of feelings with her mom, and with her dad when she said he could spend more time with her. but i think those were more to show how she got as *beep* up as she is, not so much to soften her.

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i think everyone on this thread missed the point:
kimberly is an actress!
remorse = illusion.
it's beverly hills, near hollywood where acting is what people do best.
and kimberly was just a wannabe actress, who lost herself along the way...

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