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Wasn't Brittany Actually Harrased?


Okay, so they all get in trouble for lying about them being harrassed/asaulted by Mr. Anderson..but..technically only Kimberly and Randa were lying..mr anderson made brittany touch herself in public? shouldnt there be some consequence to mr anderson for that?..and i thought the boyfriend was too hard on her since he was there when anderson made her do it..im really confused..did i miss something?
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ps. i also thought mr. nickle would get in trouble in the end..he seemed creepier than anderson at times..hmm

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Well...he really didn't make her strip. The whole thing was for her to imagine herself being alone and doing something she would do in private. So, in a way, it was sort of her choice to strip in front of everyone.

I do think that he should have gotten in trouble for not trying to stop it

I also think the boyfriend was harsh but for good reason. In a way, all of them lied.

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my thinking is that (at least at first), he was just too shocked to stop her. notice how nobody else ever cried out "Brittany, what the hell are you doing?"?

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I don't think she was harassed, but he did, of course, behave inappropriately. As another poster mentioned, these are kids, not professional actors. They shouldn't be allowed, let alone expected, to do things like that on stage.

That being said, I REALLY don't think she was sexually harassed! There were other scenes she could have played out, say dancing like a dork to some Avril Lavigne song, or scratching an itch, or posing Paris Hilton-like in the mirror. Silly, fun things that teenage girls do, and if the teacher was pushing for more, why not call him out and ask what he REALLY wanted.

Then again, those are things that I do, moments in MY life that weren't necessarily true to Brittany, who just masturbated a lot. Still, she COULD HAVE made something up. Then again, she was trying to give an honest performance. I don't know.

The issue isn't black and white. When is it ever?

P.S: Let's keep Randa's words, perhaps the most important of the film, in mind.
"We are all sinners".

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I don't think he ment for her to start doing *that* on mid stage.

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True true. He indeed did have a sick facinating with teenaged girls, but I don't think he ever acted upon it, in a overtly perverted manner. Yes, he bought his wife (His wife?! That is the WEIRDEST relationship on Earth). Anyway, he bought his wife, the "school skirt" and made her act as though she was a naughty school girl. Witch it weird, odd and perverted. But at least he never gave into his mind and touched one of the girls. Brittany wasn't harassed, she just misinterpreted what he ment. Man this movie was intense. Made me think... also made me never want to be a teacher, just incase I encounted them kinda of students.
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technically she was harassed because he knew that she was uncomfortable with it but made her keep going, and made her feel bad and possibly lose the part of anne frank by not doing it. and just the way he was looking at her and wanted her to keep going he was just creepy.and he bought his wife the skirt and made her read kimberlys essay so he obviously got something out of it. i thought the movie was awsome

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yeah, I don't really think so either ...

... but then again, I was trying to think as I watched that scene, what on earth would I do if asked to do that exercise by my director? honestly, when someone says over and over "what you do when you're completely alone ... when no one else can see you ... completely alone ..." I don't know, maybe I'm just a little too sex-obsessed myself, but MY mind jumps first to "*that*." besides, we already knew that Britney masturbated a lot. anyway; my point is that no, he didn't ask her to do *that*, but there's no way it didn't cross his mind that she might do something of the sort.

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You have a good point, yes my mind atomaticaly went to *that*, but er...you would think she would use discretion since she was infront of an audience, and all. If a professor asked me to do that, I think I would probably not do *that*.

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Thats the whole point of it! He was a pervert! He was enjoying watching her strip. He had his wife wear a school girls dress and read him the essay a girl wrote him in detention!

Thats the irony. They were lying, but in actual fact they were right on the ball.

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I don't think he was a pervert or did anything really wrong, after all, it was the man in the circumstances, not the circumstances in the man.

nah he did harass britney, harassment dosn't have to be touching.

technically she was harassed because he knew that she was uncomfortable with it but made her keep going, and made her feel bad and possibly lose the part of anne frank by not doing it.

exactly.

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but she wasn't forced! nobody said to her 'touch yourself', nobody said to her 'don't stop'.

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I thought so too, but I don't know if that was real or not. Whether it went as far as she said on the stand.

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well it was kind of weird because even though they were lying they were still sort of telling the truth. i mean the teacher was perverted in what he did to britney on stage... i mean he looked like he was ENJOYING her touching herself/ stripping and he didn't tell her to stop and when she ran away he told her to stop and do more!! i mean that is kinda gross... and also how he bought his wife the school girl skirt and he was making her read the essay and act all like a dirty school girl. but i don't think that he did anything really to randa or kimberly even if he did have a weird obsession with school girls...

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It was kind of messed up...I mean, if somebody said "what you do when you're completely alone ... when no one else can see you ... completely alone ..." then I would've been like, "Uhh....read a book?!" Seriously, what else did he want her to do?

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It was kind of messed up...I mean, if somebody said "what you do when you're completely alone ... when no one else can see you ... completely alone ..." then I would've been like, "Uhh....read a book?!" Seriously, what else did he want her to do?

LOL same, I would have probably said something like "er, I would do my homework??" but obviously he meant *that*, coz, there's nothing particularly interesting about writing a journal or reading a magazine :S. I dunno I think that he was trying to be proffesional but he should have realised that he wasn't working with presffesional actors, he was working with high-school kids. I think that in the movie he wasn't supposed to be a pevert, they just make you think that so even you as the audience believe the girls at first.

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Mr Anderson didn't actually make Brittany do that... he asked her to think of something she does when alone...blah blah.. and although he probably would have loved to have seen it, he never directly asked her to do it. It was clear that he got turned on by the girls, but he didn't blatantly act on it. We only see him "acting on it" with his wife. I find it more bizarre that Brittany even considered doing that in the first place... I mean it'd take a hell of a lot more persuasion than "pretend the class and I are not here", to convince any normal person of doing that in class.

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I was shocked that she did it so easily. Barely took any persuading. He obviously wanted her to do that, and same with the other teacher randomly sitting there.

That's why I felt so horrible for Britney, she was the most innocent AND went through the worst thing out of all of them.

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As an actress, she made the mistake of choosing the wrong subject to show on the stage, in the sense she was not prepared for that.

But she also must overcome the embarassment of the situation. Actors are sometimes given embarassing roles. I think that was what Mr Anderson meant when he forced her back. Britany herself understood that, as it was her that broke on the witness stand. Hence no harrassment.

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"It was not forced on her."

It could be interpreted as that, and if it was it wouldn't be entirely wrong. She wasn't FORCED, but at the end when she got uncomfortable and tried to leave, Mr. Anderson told her to continue doing what she was doing... and that right there is definitely sexual harassment, to one degree or another.

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There is always a threat in molestation, because it falls under the "abuse" category. Molestation NEVER involves two consenting people, whereas stat rape often does. A 16 yr old who fools around with a 22 year old isn't "molested." The 22 yr old is committing stat rape, but not molestation.

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I think he technially harassed Brittany. I mean she didn't lie about anything. Yeah she was about to strip willing but at the same time he didn't stop it, and should have got in trouble for it. I eman the girl was about to strip and he was standing there enjoying it. I think he should have got in trouble, and thats why i didn't feel bad for him when his wife left him in the end.

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I mean she didn't lie about anything.
Yes she did! In the trial she said that he had molested her, she only decided to tell anyone about it when 'he did it in public' - meaning when she nearly masturbated on stage. Which was a lie because he didn't molest her or do anything inapropriate towards her before the msturbating-on-stage incident.

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I don't think it was really harrasment. Mr. Anderson didn't know that Brittney was going to do that. But he not only didn't stop her but asked her to continue. Which was inappropriate. He is the adult there. And there are hints that he has crossed lines (although not actual molestation) when the principal tells him to behave himself. That doesn't mean he molests girls, though. Those are things that the school should have payed attention to not the courts.

Like Kimberly said, he had already doused himself with gasoline. They just lit the match. I don't think anyone can claim that Mr. Anderson didn't have some questionable thoughts. But that doesn't make him a criminal.

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I dont think it was harrasment. I mean, if I was on stage, and a teacher told me to do something I wouldnt do around other people, that I would only do when I was alone, as a way of strengthening myself as an actress or whatever, I totally wouldnt even think of touching myself! I eman if she didnt want to do that, she definately didnt have to. There are other things people wouldnt do in front of others. Maybe I'm just simple minded, but I would have gotten up there and picked my nose, or scratche dmy butt or something!

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I think realistically, he would have (and should have) gotten fired anyway. Although it does seem that his wife left him.

But yeah, I'd consider that totally inappropriate - he may not have suggested she touch herself precisely (although if anyone can come up with something else he meant, considering that what he told her and that he specifically set his idea as being her bedroom, by all means share) but he bullied her using her authority into doing it in the first place; he didn't stop her, showing that she was doing exactly as he had in mind; and more importantly, when she did want to stop, he told her to keep going (if he was shocked at her like people have suggested, this is when he would have said 'I didn't mean you touch yourself', presumably.)
(Plus, the headteacher knew that he couldn't be trusted with the girls and warns him to behave, which suggests that the guy really was a pervert - even his boss knows!)

And the boyfriend was a total heel, throughout the movie. I couldn't believe the girls were fighting over some Victorian minded freak like him.

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