Question?.... Answer me. - Pretty Persuasion (2006) Discussion

[–] mrliteral 18 years ago

I can absolutely guarantee you that no character in this movie did anything to anyone because of indians in Iraq. Moron.

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[–] captaincheekypants68 18 years ago

Indians in Iraq?

Come on, own up you're George Bush aren't you?

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

Ok, I stated that wrong. Indians are in India, and Iraq is not in India is it? Well, I should have said Arabs then.

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[–] GRUMPYNZ 18 years ago

Hahahaha it's George Bush!

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-Indiana Jones

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

Alright, alright. Now that everyone has bagged me for my honest mistake. Can we get back to the point? She drove the "Middle Eastern" girl in the movie to kill herself as revenge for her brother being killed in Iraq by "Middle Easterners". I hope that makes a little bit more sense?

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[–] VonSiren 18 years ago

my thoughts at the end were if the teacher had really molested randa... because you never really see everything that goes on in the room when he is lecturing her, and although she was put up to it by Kimberly to testify she might have been telling the truth the whole time, which is why she commit suicide in the end. Because she knew that now nobody could possibly believe her and that she had brought shame upon her family.

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[–] suddendeathincarolina 18 years ago

although i didn't enjoy the movie...that is a really interesting thought.

i don't think that it what happened though.

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

But they showed what happened in the room between them, and he didn't molest her. Did you watch the whole movie? She did kill herself because she brought shame upon her family, but it was because everyone found out they were all lying about the whole ordeal.

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[–] RainyCloudz 18 years ago

The movie didn't show anything cuz he closed the blinds after Kimberley was looking at them and he said "This is what we're going to do" (about her failing his class or not). He could've just said we're going to have you work more on English or he could've molested her. I think Kimberley just saw it as a good opportunity to make up a story since no one could've seen them in there.

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

No, they did show what happened from Randa's point of view, and it was what you said, he just told her they were going to have to work on her grades. They showed it sometime towards the end.

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[–] la_swank 18 years ago

yes they showed that HOWEVER they did not show how the scene actually ended. that's what we're trying to say here; we KNOW he was implying that she would have to work harder on English because we saw all that, but we didn't see anything that happened after he put his hand on Randa's shoulder. so really, anything could have happened. I think it's one of the most interesting mysteries of the movie.

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[–] crystallight_99 18 years ago

I don't think Kimberly was watching Randa in that first scene when Randa arrived at the school - I think she was watching Brittany and Troy
I also don't think she PLANNED for Randa to kill herself, in that violin scene afterward, she said "she shouldn't have done that" to her father and it seemed like one of the few sincere moments kimberly had in the movie

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[–] joeycat512 18 years ago

WHO? is marissa?

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[–] nicks_chick 18 years ago

The Middle Eastern girl is named Randa, not Marissa.

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[–] berlec 18 years ago

Indians in Iraq? Marissa? Are you OK?

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

Well, the actress that plays Randa is named Marissa, so call her either one. Whatever floats your boat!

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[–] muhsbandit 18 years ago

thats not even true. in fact, i couldn't find anyone on the cast list with the name marissa.

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

I think I just got confused somewhere in between all these posts, but yeah, I was wrong. But her name wasn't the point of this post, so bleh, I care not.

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[–] Martina_Helene 18 years ago

~But that's just me~

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

What in the hellicopter is that supposed to mean? You mother fooker.

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[–] heligirl2 18 years ago

you guys are stupid lol no offense but the answer to this thread is rite in the movie plain as day... at the end in the confrontation between Brittany and kimberly she says:
B: "Randa died because of this!"
to which Kimberly replies "every war has it's casualties..."
she didnt plan for Randa to die

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

i still think she did, she was an avil mastermind!

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[–] deucah 18 years ago

by - heatherlapointe on Fri Aug 4 2006 22:39:48
you guys are stupid lol no offense but the answer to this thread is rite in the movie plain as day... at the end in the confrontation between Brittany and kimberly she says:
B: "Randa died because of this!"
to which Kimberly replies "every war has it's casualties..."
she didnt plan for Randa to die

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Actually, she said "every war has it's casualties..... JUST ASK MY BROTHER"

Which sheds a different light on her planning for Randa to die... or not..

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

very good point. i think you stomped them. which is also why i think she used her genius to devise a plan that ultimately lead back to Randa's destruction.

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[–] dreamsxenocide 18 years ago

What on Earth are you talking sbout?

A) Her name is Randa, not Marissa.
B)There are no Indians in the movie, unless they make some cameo I am unaware of.

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[–] hypersensitiveEnigmatic 18 years ago

those are old pointes being that someone has already made them in this forum you unnattentive person.

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[–] Freedomisanillusion 18 years ago

God this has been the most frustrating board to read.

Obviously ADI SCHNALL played RANDA AZZOUNI in the film - the original poster acknowledged their mistake - move on people and let bygones be bygones, but at the same time, let this be a lesson to those who write these boards to get your facts straight - getting a name wrong is forgivable. 'Indians in Iraq' is less so - but at least you've admitted you were wrong.

And there are no definite answers here. This is a movie which leaves some aspects to the interpretation of the viewer - for instance, there has been little discussion of it, but the 'we are all sinners' comment is very ambiguous.

Personally, I believe Kimberly befriended Randa for a number of reasons - Kimberly liked to be in control of and manipulate the people around her, and Randa's timid nature lended itself to that. Furthermore, Kimberly had been planning the whole debacle to get back at Troy, so she most likely befriended Randa as ammunition in her lawsuit against Mr. Anderson.

I don't think Kimberly planned for Randa to die. When she says 'she shouldn't have done that' it is a very remourseful remark, and she has no need for pretence in front of her father - there's no call for subtelty with him. Furthermore, it is when Brittany says 'but Randa died because of this' that Kimberly becomes markedly upset and the tears show. I believe that Kimberly truly felt remorse and regret over Randa's death, but she couldn;t let herself drop her iron willed facade in front of Brittany.

That's my personal view on the issue. Feel free to agree or disagree with it as you like.

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[–] playbaby 17 years ago

She DID intend for Randa to die. She talks to her about her brother being killed in 'friendly fire' in Iraq. Randa is from Iraq and she tries to make her feel bad for being an Arab woman. She makes it clear at the end in the conversation, explaining her motives;

Brittany: Randa died because of this
Kimberly: Every war has it's casualties. Just ask my brother

It's so obvious!

Why is phonetically not spelled the way it sounds?

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[–] Jen_Garner-1 17 years ago

I don't think so, because she says then to her father in the end that "she shouldn't have done it." But she wasn't truly talking to her father, she was talking to herself. She didn't think Randa would kill herself, and she didn't want her to.

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[–] cherielia 17 years ago

i think that she didn't plan for randa to die, but the fact that randa did die made her kind of happy.

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[–] megzorz 16 years ago

See, I don't think Kimberly wanted Randa to die in the first place. When she implied that she felt no remorse over it to Brittany, I think it was just to show her that she was an all powerful, inpenetrable God-like force that didn't feel guilt, ever. Maybe she believed that, until she saw herself on TV, and finally realised how horrible the things that she had done were.

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[–] latashamj 16 years ago

Indians in Iraq...?
Yeah...sure...

Anyway, I didn't think of it that way. I don't think she necessarily wanted to kill her but I don't think she really cared if she got hurt. I don't think she really cared about anyone.

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