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What I liked + didn't like about this movie.

posted 17 years ago by creaturefeeture
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I must say that it was pretty boring in many parts and some of the acting was crappy

but
i loved the raw feel to the movie. it was very realistic. that's why it was boring. it really felt like you were meeting someone for coffee. a lot of the conversations were awkward, lots of awkward silences, boring everyday things to talk about. while it may not have translated greatly to a broad audience, it's really refreshing to see something so accurate and real without all the hollywood fluff.

[–] deceptakawn 17 years ago

agreed....

highlights for me: freddy molina and steve coogan, RZA GZA and "Bill ghostbustin' ass murray"

[–] dubtastic 17 years ago

Yeah I found this boring most of the time...and the acting was also quite bad (particularly the two twins, mostly the brother) with the exception of some of the better-known actors (cate blanchett, steve buscemi, alfred molina etc.)

And before anyone jumps in with a holier-than-thou response about how I don't "understand" it.....I DO understand what this movie was trying to do...I just think it was very poorly executed.

I'm aware that the filmmaker was trying to be unique and show little slices of life or whatever.....but I found most of what the characters were saying to be unnatural and uninteresting. The iggy pop scene for example....most of what they were talking about was boring and nonsensical....the only bit I liked was the part where they agreed to have a smoke since they've quit. I think the movie could have been much better if little interesting bits of dialogue like that could have been show more oftan than the pointless, boring sections of dialogue that I could only hope would end sooner, like the roberto benigni scene.

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[–] downstairs_roro 17 years ago

i don't think the pop/waits scene was nonsensical or boring at all. they're both musicians, so they talk about a drummer iggy heard and they talk about being on the jukebox or not. and the whole bit about doing roadside surgery and delivering a baby, that's standardly what tom waits has actually been known to do to reporters and the like.

maybe you were just born without taste?

[–] purple_halibut 16 years ago

Born without taste? So, let me get this straight, and if I misunderstand what you said, then let me know, but it would seem to me, that you believe anyone who doesn't like your films has no taste? So, if you liked Epic Movie, and I didn't, would I have bad taste? I don't get your thinking. I am just trying to understand where you are coming from.

[–] Hankenstein 16 years ago

There's not too much to "get" or not get. It's just a dialogue movie, and it boils down to how much you care about the people IN the movie, because they're portraying a semi-real version of themselves and THAT'S INTERESTING to someone like me and many others who LOVE Tom Waits and Iggy Pop, the White Stripes, Bill Murray and the Wu, Steve Buscemi and the Lees (I just saw "Do the right thing" last night... Joie Lee was good) etc. etc. etc.

So no, the "film" doesn't stand too well on its own. It has no substance, no meaning or takeaway, and "No Problem" drove me a bit crazy. But it glorifies the mundane: you can feel like you're in a movie, even if you're just having coffee and cigarettes with a friend.

[–] downstairs_roro 16 years ago

you should probably brush up on the idea of sarcasm. that last bit was a joke, you dolt.

[–] pappasl 16 years ago

I am by no means shallow. And I am a fan of much of his work. Dead Man and Night on Earth are among my favorite films. But...THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST BORING AND POINTLESS FILMS I HAVE EVER SEEN. I was so disappointed. Remember, I went into this expecting and hoping to like it. I also get it, I just didn't like it. I even found Wright and Begnini(I hope I'm spelling that correctly) boring. Their improv was a little like watching a train wreck from inside the train. I wanted to rip out my eyes and jam them in my ears.

nomercyman...It is you who was born without taste. I believe you are the type who sits around waiting for others to tell you what is good. Let me help you out. This was not good.

[–] killerstacyvip 16 years ago

I agree that most of this was boring but I don't think it was pointless. This was something that was important to the director and I think that comes through. Maybe it was also somewhat validating to him that all these other artists appreciated his work enough for them to want to be part of this off beat project. I thought the Steven Wright scene funny but I am a big fan of his. The Bill Murray, JZA & RZA scene is as good as any of my favorite scenes in other movies. I feel bad that he spent so long working on this project. Supposedly he started it in the 80's. You would think with that much time being put into it that it would be better, less drab and more finely tuned.

[–] philwatkin85 16 years ago

"I'm aware that the filmmaker was trying to be unique and show little slices of life or whatever"

"Or whatever"? How very articulate and well explained. You could be a flim critic with constructive criticism of that calibre!!

[–] AnthonyMcSmith 15 years ago

lol ew as if message boards on imdb are a place for thought-out film criticism.

[–] ege-ulf 16 years ago

The RZA-GZA-part was totally hilarious!

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[–] seefomatic 16 years ago

I was expecting something like "Night on Earth", and that expectation sort of ruined if for me at first. Steven Wright and Benigni were underwhelming, but as others have said, it's like a real life movie - warts and all.
And any movie that mentions Nikolai Tesla is going to get a thumbs up from me. Love the White Stripes. My kids hate it when I sing "Conquest"