why Phil Noyce?!


He's made a decent career directing mediocre to good thrillers ranging from crap like "The Saint" to solid thrillers like "Clear and Present Danger" and "Blind Fury". So why "American Pastoral", a masterpiece in contemporary fiction that is so far from the thriller territory that has been his domain.

"Rabit Proof Fence" may be his first step to more dramatic territory, but it is still in his domain.

"American Pastoral" is deep literature explaining why a generation has gone completely lost following the turbulent events in this country snowballing from the Vietnam War. It would make for maybe one or two scenes of action, and the rest depends on the intensity of the material to sustain the audience's attention.

Phillip Noyce has never done anything so heavy or controversial and I ponder whether he can handle it or not. I am having a hard time seeing him handle the material right.

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well..recently he was in south africa shooting the film Hotstuff. this film is about the apartheit era that affected thousands of black people for the struggle to freedom.. from what i have seen on this film..rushes etc. Its damn good. but i dont wanna judge a book by its cover. let him try. and well if that dfoesnt work. well mayb bean 2 will work :-P ONLY KIDDING

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He also did a fairly good job with Graham Greene's Quiet American. I think he cut his teeth with thrillers (you forgot to mention Sliver and Patriot Games), but he probably wants to move on to something more meaningful. Don't forget, the same man who gave us Raiders of the Lost Ark, Jaws, and Jurassic Park also gave us Schindler's List and The Color Purple, not to mention winning two Oscars.

I'm actually surprised that no one is talking about the fact that a non-American is making a movie about a book that is widely regarded as one of the best American novels ever written. I haven't read the novel yet, so I can't comment about it. Is an outsider's perspective what this movie needs, or is Philip Noyce already "American" enough to tackle the subject?

The only second chance you get is to make the same mistake twice. - David Mamet

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I think whether he's American or not is irrelevant. This is a story about the consequences of ignored rebellion, I've read the book (it's wonderful) and its themes are more than universal.

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Even still I think they could get a more suitable director - someone who can deal with drama more effectively.
How about they get Atom Egoyan to do it? I don't know why, that just feels right. Or maybe Jonathon Demme.

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Atom Egoyan would be great (Exotica)!! He deals with human suffering and complex characters beas good as any director out there.

I do agree a better director could be found.

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You know what, you're absolutely right...and I didn't realize that until I saw the trailer for To Catch a Fire. I take back what I posted. I was worried that American Pastoral was going to be made into a political thriller (which it has elements of, but is exclusively a dramatic character study). After seeing the trailer to Catch a Fire, I felt like he can keep the human elements of the story intact and persistent. But then again, it's just a trailer.

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I just saw "Catch a Fire" tonight and I must say that Philip Noyce directed a very powerful film. It's a political thriller, with a very human touch. I now have no doubt that he can direct American Pastoral and I look forward to seeing it.

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This is one of the best novels of the last century, after the mess Noyce made of "The Quiet American" he should not be allowed near it.

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What was wrong with The Quiet American? I thought it was very true to Graham Greene's novel, and the cinematography was very beautiful. My main complaint was Brendan Frasier's acting, but that hardly makes the movie a "mess".

The only second chance you get is to make the same mistake twice. - David Mamet

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The quiet american was great, and anybody who complains about noyces lack of humanity should watch rabbit proof fence before commenting any further. As one post mentioned, he started with political thrillers/actions but his last 3 have been modern classics! Its easy to slam Frasers acting ability but i thought that was a great performance as was Michael Caine's as usual. I am betting this one is going to be another classic especially with the strong material he has to work with.

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As an Australian I may well be biased, but I'm delighted to hear Phil Noyce is making this film. His version of "The Quiet American" was a masterclass in adaptation. It struck a perfectly nuanced balance between political themes and human characterization, and that’s precisely what Roth’s novel achieves, too. That skill is actually Noyce’s stock in trade. Sure, he’s directed his share of big-budget Hollywood crap, but foreign viewers might not be aware that Noyce cut his teeth on some legendary Australian period pieces such as “Newsfront” and the mini-series “The Dismissal” and “The Cowra Breakout”. He also co-wrote a mini-series about Vietnam. All of these projects are renowned for their sense of capturing historical moments of cultural and political significance and yet instantiating them in the lives of credible characters. This is exactly what Roth does in the novel (in many of his novels, actually), so I think Noyce is a great match for this project. Does it matter that Noyce isn’t an American who lived through the Swede’s time in America? Only if you doubt the human capacity for creativity. If directors, or writers for that matter, limited themselves to documenting only the times or places they lived in, then our arts would be unnecessarily impoverished. I’m sure Spielberg’s Jewishness contributed in some way to the magic of “Schindler’s List” – but don’t forget the Booker Prize-winning novel on which it’s based was written in Sydney by an Irish-Australian who trained as a Catholic priest. He'd never set foot in Poland until after he began writing that book. Yet none of that undermines his or Spielberg's capacity to bring a specific milieu to life, nor for the film to be embraced as emblematic of a particular moment in our cultural history.

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I'd love to see Ang Lee take on this film. He's a director who has proven himself adept at navigating this thematic terrain- most notably with "The Ice Storm". Noyce is talented enough, though even his more personal films like "The Quiet American" are overlayed with elements of the action and thriller genres, which don't really fit "American Pastoral".

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The op is a narrow minded republican !

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Ewan McGregor has replaced Noyce... http://deadline.com/2015/02/ewan-mcgregor-american-pastoral-director-r eplacing-philip-noyce-1201376012/

WUT?

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Apparently it took 10 years to get this to the screen, and now the star, Ewan McGregor, is also directing. I don't know how this came about, but I am certainly willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. And the fact that he is not "American" doesn't bother me, especially given his wonderful All-American performance in "Big Fish."


"SEDAGIVE?"

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Maybe he is branching out.

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