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My kid would be dead to me


The movie definitely has it's flaws, but the unconditional love he showed for his daughter after she did what she did, I had trouble relating to..I have A daughter, but blowing up a post office and killing an innocent person is a deal breaker..... At least I think lol..

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Everybody is different. I think it was all denial more than unconditional love. He had a place where he kept her, in his mind, and he never had the courage to remove her from that place, to lift the mask and see what was really there. Denial. It crushes and kills.

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the unconditional love he showed for his daughter


Hmm interesting. That might be the problem in their relationship. In the archetypical model a mothers love is unconditional while the fathers love requires you to make an effort to make him proud of you. Both sides are important for a child's development. You learn that if someone doesn't love you, you can act in a way to win their love. With unconditional love there is nothing you can do, it's either there or it isn't. So maybe she thought she could do whatever and would always be loved. Or make their parents suffer to get attention.

Of course some children are just *beep* up like this one.

In that way this might be similar to "The 9th life of Louis Drax".

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> In the archetypical model a mothers love is unconditional
> while the fathers love requires you to make an effort to make
> him proud of you.

That is a very astute comment, one a the small fraction of intelligent
comments on Internet chat boards. Where are you quoting
from when you say that.

> Both sides are important for a child's development. You learn
> that if someone doesn't love you, you can act in a way to win
> their love.

I am not sure this really applies to this story. It must have something
to do with the stuttering ... what do you think that is about. A certain
aspect of the daughter's understanding unable to be expressed?

Perhaps it is also a meaning in the Mother being Christian and the
Father being Jewish. Look at the Grandfather and how he said leave
her alone. So, perhaps in some way the daughter was not left alone.

However, there is also that very weird scene where the daughter comes
on sexually to her Father at a young age. Did that corrupt the Father's
love for the daughter, or did that reflect that there are things her Mom
could do to win his love that she could not.

I am right in the middle of this movie that just showed up an Amazon
Prime, so it is so unusual I wanted to read what people have said about
it and their thoughts.

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