If you type EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) on Google you will get heaps of websites offering information on the so called EVP, and will tell you how to make your own EVP recording just like in the film White Noise. But what I want to know is anyone here has tried and got something out of it. I once tried by putting the voice recorder on, on my mp3 play in my room and leaving it there for 15 minutes. I got nothing. Was there anyone else who my have got something?
I left my MD recorder set for 4 hours recording. It was in my room. Guess what: I didn't hear any ghosts. Instead I listened to me sleeping, snorring as hell and stoping brathing from time to time. I have to wear an oxygen mask for sleeping but I found out in time.
THIS IS ABSURD! ARE YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY TALKING TO EACH OTHER WITH CONVICTION THAT EVP EXISTS?? THERE IS AN EXPLANATION FOR THIS, AND THIS POOR EXCUSE FOR A MOVIE JUST EXPLOITED THE SUGGESTABILITY OF THE PROSPECTIVE AUDIENCE. THE FILM MAKERS OF THIS FILM SERIOUSLY AND GROSSLY UNDERESTIMATED ANY LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE OF THE VIEWER AND ONCE I SAW THIS FILM I WAS ABOUT READY TO PUKE MY BOWELS OUT AFTER REALISING I HAD SPEND £6.30 OF MY HARD EARNED CASH ON THIS PILE OF CRAP.
EVP ARISES WHEN RADIO WAVES ARE PARTIALLY REFLECTED OFF CERTAIN LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE, OF WHICH THE HIGHEST DISTRIBUTION LAY IN THE IONOSPHERE. WHEN LONG WIRES ARE USED, IN THIS FILM, NOTICE THE WIRES FOR THE MICROPOHONES ARE LONG, AND THE PURE VOLUME OF WIRES USED FOR THE EQUIPMENT IS QUITE SUFFICIENT, THE WIRE ACTS AS A PRIMITIVE ANTENNA, AND CAN IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES PICK UP THESE "MESSAGES FROM THE DEAD!" haha. THE REASON SOME PEOPLE THAT TRY EVP MAY FIND THAT THE "terrifying Radio One DJ Ghosts" SO TERRIFYING IS THAT THE RADIO WAVES THAT REACH NORTH AMERICA, ARE MAINLY FROM RUSSIA, WHICH CAN IN SOME SITUATIONS SOUND AGGRESSIVE, PURELY DUE TO THE INTONATION AND LETTER PATTERNS USED WITHIN GENERAL SPEECH.
IT JUST SHOCKS ME THAT THERE ARE TALKS OF ANOTHER FILM. I JUST HOPE THE GHOSTS GET ME FIRST
YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN A SAVIOR WHICH YOU CALLED JESUS?
YOU GUYS MUST BE REALLY CRAZY!
AND I HEARD THERE IS GOING TO BE A 2ND PASSION OF THE CHRIST
I HOPE THE LORD GETS TO ME FIRST!
that is basically what you are saying (though it wouldn't effect me - i'm athesit) but i do believe in superantural stuff.
Why don't you explore the supernatural world?
I have had to suffer through the Catholic world (i never was catholic - any religion) my whole life at... Catholic school... so i must know about all of your beliefs, so now why don't you learn about ours?
If you are indeed working towards your doctorate then you must know the notion of Type 1 and Type 2 errors yes? If one assumes the occurrence of some phenomenon is impossible without first exhausting all possibilities and explanations, then that person is committing Type 2 error. Thus, the claim that "ALL EVP are false" is not only inaccurate but also erroneous. The best you can say is "with a confidence level of X percent, EVP can be explained by scientific reasoning."
I am not saying there is such thing as EVP, but if science has taught us anything, it's to keep an open mind and constantly challenge both what you believe, and those you don't.
great point.. i was perhaps being too rush to express clearly. My original thought was developed around argumentum ad ignorantiam, that is the logical fallacy of:
A has not been proven false therefore A is true, or A has not been proven true therefore A is false.
The existence of something indeed should be a dichotomy. But we do not know, or put it another way, we do not have sufficent evidence that lends us the total and complete confidence to say whether EVP is true or false. Therefore, one cannot completely reject a hypothesis due to an apparent lack of evidence and hold another hypothesis to be the unquestioned and absolute truth. I for one do not believe in EVP, but at the same time I also don't want to discount the possibility of it being true.
"CATHOLIC?! IM A POST GRADUATE PHYSICS STUDENT STUDYING FOR MY DOCTORATE IN QUANTUM OPTOELECTRONICS"
If this is true, God help us all.
Before you shoot your immature little mouth off, bragging about how you are studying for a doctorate in quantum optoelectronics, maybe you should learn where the caps key is on the keyboard first ;)
HOW DARE YOU UNDERMINE MY SUPERIORITY!!!!! MY OPINION IS CLEARLY CORRECT, PERHAPS IT IS YOU WHO SHOULD DISCOVER WHERE THE CAPS KEY IS BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU LOOK COOLER!!
ITS SO BLATENTLY WRONG. YOU KNOW IT YOUVE BEEN BRAINWASHED
in space, no-one can hear you scream. Plenty of warm regards,
A band of mine was playing in a house in Florida and recording. The house had a "history" to it. We didn't care and didn't really believe anything about ghosts. We definitely were not looking for anything. However, upon listening to the tape on play back (and mind you we were a quiet band, not a loud thumping distortion driven noise festival) you could clearly hear a voice saying "stop, please stop". We were so creeped out by this we packed up and got the hell out of there. As the microphone was in clear view of us the entire time and no one got near it. scouts honor.
OKAY talking in all caps is GAY. hah. just thought I'd mention this - secondly - I go with the whole idea that you shouldn't necessarily condemn something - even if you don't believe in it. it's called RESPECT people. Quit being douchebags. :)
In a related story, the other day I wandered into a wardrobe and was transported into a magical land where I battled and slayed the evil ice witch. Kooky, huh?
OKAY talking in all caps is GAY. hah. just thought I'd mention this - secondly - I go with the whole idea that you shouldn't necessarily condemn something - even if you don't believe in it. it's called RESPECT people. Quit being douchebags. :)
I just want to highlight the irony of this person using "gay" as an insult and then talking about respecting people and not being a douchebag. I hope this person has grown and changed in the 9 years since they made this post.
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I've also experienced something like this. Recording a demo with my "distortion driven noise festival" lol project. Ended up picking up a woman, think she was Native American in origin, but that's just a guess. She was singing some sort of chant, and was very depressed sounding. Roughly five or six seconds of the saddest and most depressing sound I've heard yet. It was interesting in that I didn't expect this to happen. To add to this, the area had *unbeknownst to me at the time* a tremendous amount of ghost sightings and stories surrounding American Indians for whatever reason. Unfortunately though, there was no packing up and getting out of there...it was the place where me and my *then* wife lived.
Strange experience that sticks with me to this day, as well as other things that happened surrounding this that I won't go into. After this experience, I do however CONCRETELY believe that such things as ghosts as well as "demons" (which are "evil" ghosts) exist...as did Thomas Edison.
There's no coincidence that he invented the phonograph, and then started work on a machine to communicate with the dead. He was well aware of the connection. We, as "modern civilization" seem to have missed the boat at explaining everything away. Sure, there are such things as radio signals *as suggested* and such that end up being EVPs. Though, that doesn't explain them all away flatly. There needs to be more serious research in this field. Hopefully, this movie will spark some sort of consciousness in the masses that will lead to that.
While producing a supernatural cable TV special ("South Jersey Ghost Hunt"), several years ago, we were shooting in Batsto (New Jersey), at the old cemetary.We had the asssistance of a ghost research group fom South Jersey. As you can guess, they were armed to the teeth with all sorts or electronic equipment,including EVP devices. While standing next to one of the gravestones, we picked up an EVP of a women laughing hysterically. It did not last long, but it was very distinct, and plain as day. Baring a hoax, or a very unlikely equipment malfunction,this was not the voice of anyone present at the time. We also picked up the "orbs" phenomenon on our video equipment. Firstly, these phenomenon were recorded on $35,000, professional grade video equipment, not Walmart specials. Secondly, the person directing the shoot was the former lead cameraman for the Magnum PI series, with over 30 years experience in camera work. There were no fire flys, or any other flying debris, visible. The video tape was brand new, in the wrapper, and was supplied by my production company. No one touched it, before it was placed in the cameras. The videographer took it to a studio lab in New York, to determine what had caused the phenomena. They had no explanation.
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Sometimes weird things happen that don't have easy explanations. Sure, I'm pretty skeptical of EVP, but that's just because I haven't seen it or heard it myself.
There have only been a few instances in my life when I've wondered about the presence of spirits and what not. One has to do with the death of my friend...we were in 10th grade, and he died at age 15 from tachycardia. The night he died, the smoke detectors in his house kept going off, even after the batteries were taken out of every single one of them. Then, a couple of weeks ago it happened again for the first time since that night, and the next day his mother found out about some medical complications for herself. Now I know people would just say those are patterns, but until then I'd never heard of (or seen) a smoke detector that is battery powered work without a battery. And for all of them in the house to do it, all of them without batteries...it was pretty odd.
The second instance is one that my mother experienced when I was much younger. My grandmother had recently died, but my grandfather was still living in that same house. We were all getting ready to go somewhere, but my mother had forgotten something for one of my younger brothers. So, she went back into the house, and as she walked in she heard the tea-kettle turn itself on. As she walked over to turn it off, she thought, "Good thing I was here, or the house could have burned down or something," as the stove was on, to heat the kettle. But when she turned it off, she remembered that she had HEARD the gas stove turn on when she walked into the house...and she felt frightened, thinking that my grandmother was in the house with her.
I know most people will probably think of conventional answers for these things, but I'm not able to come up with one myself...because I've never seen or heard of those things happening before. People are only ever really able to know FOR SURE things that they've seen or heard themselves. Everything else is hearsay and speculation. The fact is that we WANT to believe in something after death, ANYTHING. I think that, for many, even the idea of hell (which I certainly don't believe in) is preferable to non-existence.
Personally, with the phenomena I have described, I would rather NOT believe that that would be what comes next for us...just sort of wandering the earth on some other spectral level. If I had to pick what comes next...that wouldn't be it.
"Well if you wanted to make Syrok the Preparer cry...mission accomplished."
Sometimes when I'm in the shower, the water running down the drain makes a noise that sounds like people speaking. Does that ever happen to anyone else?
Equestrienneash, i think you should stop hitting the crack ;) No now serious...They say ghosts( or other paranormal activities) are atracted to waves( sound, water, etc.)so you're right in that case. It was a very good and creepy movie, only the end was very dissappointing imo. I do believe in an afterlife, and in God so EVP could be real.
If Ghosts do exist, who is to say who is the the expert. No one knows what its like to be a ghost until you are one. I personally think they exist, but I am not convinced about evp. I think Ghosts can come up with a better way to contact us than on a tape recorder. Does a ghost think to themselve "Oh, I gota speak in a certain frequency so joe schmo can hear me on his tape recorder" Come on. Plus, believe it or not, people live and died before electronic recorders, so how would they communicate through something they have never seen or heard of when they lived. Evp is a nice theory, but ultimatly wrong.
A ghost is just a spirit without a body. At the moment your spirit has a body, but as time passes this body will age and die, but your spirit will not die. It will continue on without the body.
I would never try EVP, nor would I want to. I have enough difficulty trying to understand "living" people.
i tried to do EVP once and left my microphone being static next to the black channel on tv hoping to hear bruthas voices from beyond, but all i got was some rhymin and beats from a comedy show that had a rapper that came on an hr into the recording.
Longer years ago than I care to admit - long enough that nobody was even talking about EVPs, it just wasn't even in the culture, and I certainly didn't know about it, I caught something on tape that was irrefutably a male human voice, but he wasn't speaking English, and it was just a few words. I freaked OUT. It was very, very creepy. I was alone in my room, using one of those old cassette recorders with a little mic, and a little earpiece. I was reciting something onto tape. The male voice came right in my earpiece as loud as my own voice. Nobody else was near my room, it wasn't anyone outside the door; the sound came from right beside me. I heard it while recording, and when I rolled back the tape it was there alongside my voice just as I'd heard it. There was no drop-out of my recorded voice, "he" and I were both speaking simultaneously. I never figured out the language spoken. There were no radios, stereos or TV on near the part of the house I was in. I was alone and in complete silence - I was trying to record something and needed the quiet, so there is no question anyone was around, talking, or had a radio on.
This was, as I said, in the days before this whole thing was a talked about phenomenon, so it wasn't a case of me fooling myself or trying to catch something on tape. It was only years later that I even heard about this, and that was even creepier in hindsight because although I've since lost the tape I've never forgotten the incident. I never pursued it further and actually even now I wouldn't want to try. It's very eerie no matter what you believe about it...
Well, after watching white noise, I guess my friends and I got a little curious about EVP. We didn't really try anything, but during school we got on the computers and looked up EVP recordings. Well, we played one, and at first it was a really quiet voice, then it got louder and louder and the speakers were seriously going psycho. I was CREEEEEPED.
But yeah, I don't think anyone should really try to contact the dead, because seriously, we don't know what else is after death, other than those we love ( if you beleive in an afterlife ) there's lots of good people alive, there's lots of good people dead. there's lots of bad people alive, there's lots of bad people dead.